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To: netmilsmom
Dear netmilsmom,

You asked for the source of my first quote - it was Catholic Encyclopedia. If you don't like the source, I can't help you.

“What makes a saint (someone in heaven) different from a Cannonized Saint is the veneration.”

Well, no. Actually, the difference is the official recognition of the Church. The public veneration is what is permitted (or required) after the recognition.

In any event, it appears that if the Church formally canonizes a person, it is binding on a Catholic to acknowledge the person as a canonized saint. Obviously, you don't have to personally address petitions to the saint.

However, I imagine that if one went to Mass on that person's feast day, one would be participating in the public veneration of the saint, and if it were a holy day of obligation, one would be required to do so.


sitetest

47 posted on 11/18/2009 11:12:48 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

>>You asked for the source of my first quote - it was Catholic Encyclopedia. If you don’t like the source, I can’t help you.<<

The source of the quote uses itself as a reference in the footnotes.

If this was the AP, how much validity would be put into it?

I gave you a quote from the Catechism that says nothing about a requirement to venerate a certain Saint. Do you have a quote from the CCC or the Vatican itself? Catholics here on FR won’t accept New Advent quotes without backing from the Vatican at other times, and from Catholic to Catholic, it should be that way.
Venerating the Communion of Saints is required.

>> “What makes a saint (someone in heaven) different from a Canonized Saint is the veneration.”

Well, no. Actually, the difference is the official recognition of the Church. The public veneration is what is permitted (or required) after the recognition.<<

Yes and the veneration is not allowed without the recognition. Swirl the words however one may, if there was no desire to venerate, there would be no reason to recognize.

The whole thing is a moot point until JPII is canonized. Until that time, anyone is free to speak out against it. That won’t win one a popularity contest, but anyone is allowed an opinion.


48 posted on 11/18/2009 11:44:25 AM PST by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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