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Mormon Stumpers [my subtitle "We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?"]
Catholic Answers ^ | 2004

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:08 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock
2. The church also opposes [correctly, of course] pornography in any form (158)

Not any more. Ever since Bill Marriott & his fellow corporate leaders sanctioned profiteering off of in-room porn & Marriott porn booths (otherwise known as hotel rooms), what has the Lds church done? (Why've they've raised Bill Marriott higher within the church leadership hierarchy)

61 posted on 11/08/2009 11:27:33 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Gamecock
From the article: It appears that this "unalterable" position, constantly "affirmed," is just another in a series of doctrinal and moral teachings that Mormons have reworded, reworked, rescinded, or reneged—though never officially renounced. Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in "continuing revelation." Don’t expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with "the times."

Yup. Just like Lds leaders "reworded, reworked, rescinded, reneged" one-woman marriage...and restrictions vs. blacks as priesthood holders. Indeed, as the writer said: Such is the quality of the Mormon belief in 'continuing revelation.' -- just another phrase for relativistic 'revelation'...Indeed, "Don't expect dogmatic or ethical consistency. Rather, look for expediency and conformity with 'the times.'"

62 posted on 11/08/2009 11:31:28 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

***Alas! and did my Savior bleed
And did my Sovereign die?
Would He devote that sacred head
For such a worm as I?***

We just sang that Issac Watts song in church today!


63 posted on 11/08/2009 11:49:50 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The sword does not kill. It is a tool in the killer's hand.---Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: monocle

“I prefer not to discuss religion at all...

Do you realize you are posting that statement,
which discusses religion, on the Religion
forum?


64 posted on 11/08/2009 12:05:29 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Gamecock
From the article: ...the persons responsible must first consult with their church leader and receive God’s approval in prayer (156).

So God tells Mormons, "OK, go ahead & slice & dice...dismember the baby at will????" (And this is what they as revel in as "personal revelation???")

65 posted on 11/08/2009 12:06:59 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; monocle
“I prefer not to discuss religion at all... [monocle]

Do you realize you are posting that statement, which discusses religion, on the Religion forum? [ampu]

Well, that was my first read, too, AMPU. Though I thought about that word, "preference" -- and it's not an absolute statement. Still, it sounds like a phrase (based w/other statements made) that's more like, "I prefer to comment on religious stuff now & then...but discuss? Listen to what others have to say on it? No way."

66 posted on 11/08/2009 12:10:12 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
I thought I was posting on News/Activist forum. At least that is my computer screen reflects. I have never knowingly visited the Religion Forum because I how strongly feel about my privacy, particularly about religious matters.

As an aside I recently had a go around with a contractor who inexplicably kept telling me he was a good Catholic while trying excuse his dishonest demands. What religion had to do with it I never did find out.

67 posted on 11/08/2009 12:20:21 PM PST by monocle
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I thought of that song while my Pastor was preaching about the Islamic Terrorist....

and how their religion is Politically Correct today, but would not have been when he was young 40-50 years ago...

The Christians then would not have allowed this to happen...

Jesus said, “Father, for them..They do not know what they are doing...”

My Pastor called it what it was...a demon possessed Islamic terrorist murdered 14 Americans (I’m counting that little unborn baby boy)just because they were not Moslems...

Gollies ...

the Constitution of the United States still calls that type of action a violation of the religious rights of those people under the 1st Amendment...

The MSM doesnt know what it says or does...because they dont know Jesus or the God of the Bible...


68 posted on 11/08/2009 12:41:54 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: monocle

I how strongly feel about my privacy, particularly about religious matters.
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Yes, well, in my religion, my Book of instructions, called The Holy Bible, tells me to speak out about what i believe...

Having brought the apostles, they made them appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest.”We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name,” he said. “Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.”Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than men! Acts 5:27-29

Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ. Galations 1:10

“Now fear the LORD and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your forefathers worshiped beyond the River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD.” Joshua 24:14, 15


69 posted on 11/08/2009 12:50:09 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Don't forget the great commission.

Go ye into all the world...

70 posted on 11/08/2009 12:56:00 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: ejonesie22; monocle

Thank you EJ...

The Great Commission...

I am commanded by Jesus to ...

“Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” Mark 16:15, 16

Must you Nana ???

What will happen Nana if you dont ???

If you would rather have your “privacy” ????

Lets look at the 3rd chapter of Ezekiel shall we ???

Yes, we shall...

Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.

Eze 3:18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked [man] shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Eze 3:19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

Eze 3:20 Again, When a righteous [man] doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

Eze 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous [man], that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul. Ezaekiel 3:16-21

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It would seem that preaching the Gospel and warning the unsaved is not an option for a REAL Christian...

Anyway, since Christianity is a way of life, talking about Jesus is just an every day natural occurance for a Christian...

Either Jesus is yourt everything...

or He is nothing at all.....


71 posted on 11/08/2009 1:07:49 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

It is funny how people will say they are conservative but promote actions and activities that are anything but. Admittedly the First Amendment applies to governmental action, but I would think one would acknowledge the wisdom of the intent of that Amendment. I would greatly resent being forced to endure someone preaching Islam to me, particularly with regard to jihad and women’s rights. A little consistency goes a long way in enhancing one’s credibilty.


72 posted on 11/08/2009 1:22:28 PM PST by monocle
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To: CodeToad

“Which is why Mormons have been, for the most part, left alone. They are not a violent group and do not attack others.”

Who was first on the scene helping people after Katrina? No, it wasn’t FEMA, it wasn’t Baptists, Catholics. It was Mormons.

They also have disproportionate representation in intelligence agencies,Secret Service, FBI....because they generally, as families, and culturally do the things that make security clearances difficult to obtain.

I don’t agree with their theology, but I’d rather have them as neighbors than anyone from my or any other religion during a disaster.

I think what makes most people so dang mad at Mormons is that they behave more like Christians than most self-proclaimed Christians do!

They do set a good Christian example for other religions to follow, and they do it consistently.


73 posted on 11/08/2009 1:43:04 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer

“because they generally, as families, and culturally do the things that make security clearances difficult to obtain.”

I meant “Don’t do the things that make security clearances difficult to obtain”


74 posted on 11/08/2009 1:44:08 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: monocle

I would greatly resent being forced to endure someone preaching Islam to me, particularly with regard to jihad and women’s rights. A little consistency goes a long way in enhancing one’s credibilty.
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So would God and I...

That’s why God and I will fight against Sharia Law being introduced into the US...

That’s why God and I object to Barry “preaching Islam” from MY White House...

That’s why God and I object to “one” equating Islam to Chrsitianity...

But “one’s” so called “credibility” goes out the window as far as God is concerned if one denies Jesus...

Jesus Himself said...

“But whoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in Heaven.” Matthew 10:33

“But he that denies me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.” Luke 12:9

I, Nana, want Jesus to alwaYS SAY OF ME...

“i know your deeds. See, I have placed before you an open door that no one can shut. I know that you have little strength, yet you have kept My Word and have not denied My Name.” Revelation 3:8


75 posted on 11/08/2009 2:02:17 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Is it Christian to ignore the feelings of others?


76 posted on 11/08/2009 2:09:36 PM PST by monocle
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To: monocle

Why ???

Is that what you’ve been doing ???


77 posted on 11/08/2009 2:20:15 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Gamecock
Technically, Catholic Answers is not "Rome," although they do try very hard to be faithful to Catholic teaching.

And I'm glad you enjoyed the piece.

78 posted on 11/08/2009 2:49:06 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Phantom4
On the other hand, Mormons and Romanists still share the most serious flaw in their view of God: that men may put their own Creator under an OBLIGATION to show mercy.

I am not a Romanist. I am also not a Romanian. Please make a note of it.

Now, if you are referring -- using a childish and derogatory epithet -- to Catholicism, then I can assure you that Catholics don't believe that men, or anything created, can place God under any sort of OBLIGATION at all.

Only God can do that. If God promises X, Y, and Z, he's placed himself under an obligation.

79 posted on 11/08/2009 2:54:42 PM PST by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: RFEngineer; CodeToad
I think what makes most people so dang mad at Mormons is that they behave more like Christians than most self-proclaimed Christians do! They do set a good Christian example for other religions to follow, and they do it consistently.

(I think if you were auditioning for godhood of your own planet -- where you were planning on being worshiped & adored & glorified & obeyed as god of your own planet -- you'd be on your best behavior, too)

80 posted on 11/08/2009 4:14:49 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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