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Mormon Stumpers [my subtitle "We don’t bash your church, why bash ours?"]
Catholic Answers ^ | 2004

Posted on 11/08/2009 7:04:08 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: reaganaut

“It does not matter if what we do is “distasteful” to you or any other man, it matters that it is what God has called us to do.”

Then how come so many of you are whining?

If you think you are on a mission from God, and you believe it will include bashing another religion, then you’d expect to be called out, right?

Instead of saying “We’re on a mission from God”, I hear nothing but whining about how someone is somehow denying you freedom of speech.

Just go with the “Blues Brothers” defense, without apology.


441 posted on 11/10/2009 12:51:38 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: paulist; RFEngineer

He was being uncivilized and mean-spririted. Too bad RFEngineer wasn’t there to teach Jesus a thing or two about how to be respectful of others’ religion.

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A don’t forget that Jesus was being “unAmerican” as well.


442 posted on 11/10/2009 1:12:09 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

“A don’t forget that Jesus was being “unAmerican” as well.”

I hear whining.......


443 posted on 11/10/2009 1:14:18 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: reaganaut
These are my beloved magic mushrooms. Eat them!

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ROFL!

All too true. My husband thinks that there was something in the water in Palmyra, NY that caused JS’s delusions of grandeur.

Notice too, that the visions started in the springtime, when the manure piles on the farms were piled their highest and the mushrooms had maximum sustenance.

444 posted on 11/10/2009 1:14:20 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: RFEngineer; mrreaganaut

I have done no “whining” about denial of free speech.

I don’t care if you “call me out” or not. I will do what God wants.

BTW, your interpretation of the First amendment is flawed. It states “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

Note CONGRESS shall make NO LAW. Doesn’t say anything about “bashing” others beliefs.


445 posted on 11/10/2009 1:27:30 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: RFEngineer

not whining, just taking your statement to it’s logical conclusion.


446 posted on 11/10/2009 1:30:21 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Oh yeah - thanks.

RFEngineer could teach Jesus a thing or two about being an American too.

I’m just grateful that we are all getting to sit under his wise teachings. Of course he has no Scripture to back up anything he’s saying, but who needs the Word of God when you’ve got the word of RFEngineer.


447 posted on 11/10/2009 1:32:47 PM PST by paulist ("For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." - Philippians 1:21)
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To: reaganaut

“Note CONGRESS shall make NO LAW. Doesn’t say anything about “bashing” others beliefs.”

More whining. Nobody said you couldn’t bash to your little hearts content and for the glory of God.


448 posted on 11/10/2009 1:33:24 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: reaganaut

One correction. What we do here is far from bashing.


449 posted on 11/10/2009 1:37:04 PM PST by ejonesie22
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To: paulist

“I’m just grateful that we are all getting to sit under his wise teachings. Of course he has no Scripture to back up anything he’s saying, but who needs the Word of God when you’ve got the word of RFEngineer.”

Keep up the good work, Elwood. You’re doing God’s work bashing all those folks who don’t quite measure up to your standards.


450 posted on 11/10/2009 1:39:58 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: ejonesie22

“One correction. What we do here is far from bashing.”

This ought to be good.....ok, I’ll bite. What is it then?

Are you “spreading the love”?


451 posted on 11/10/2009 1:42:05 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: reaganaut

Now let’s not forget that, according to the LDS, GOD HAS TO HAVE A PHYSICAL body. This is an ETERNAL LAW, and cannot be changed. That is the whole point of living on earth, to gain a body and progress to become gods.
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Hey that worked for Joey Smith....

“He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be.”
- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321


452 posted on 11/10/2009 1:47:57 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: ejonesie22

agreed. Hence the quotation marks.


453 posted on 11/10/2009 1:50:40 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: RFEngineer

Again, not whining. Correction. And you were the one that called us “unAmerican”, therefore you where the one whining.


454 posted on 11/10/2009 1:52:10 PM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost, but now am found; was blind but now I see")
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To: ejonesie22

RFEngineer must be a liberal, he’s got the victim part down pat. We’re all bashing him, bashing other faiths, etc...... And, just like a true liberal, he accuses us of being whiners. He and Obama would get along swell.


455 posted on 11/10/2009 1:57:01 PM PST by paulist ("For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain." - Philippians 1:21)
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To: VC42; Gamecock; RFEngineer; colorcountry; Tennessee Nana; Elsie
The greatest irony is that this Mormon bashing thread follows an article declaring “We [Catholics] don’t bash your religion [LDS], why do you bash ours?”

I think, VC, you have this turned around. The sub-title of this thread is addressing the common Mormon claim -- which is, "We [MORMONS] don't bash your religion [XYZ], why do you bash ours [Mormonism]?"

Right after that sub-title early in the article is this line: You might like to point out a few of these to those Mormons who say their church "never attacks other churches."

That should make it clear that it's MORMONS who make the mistaken/deceptive/outlandish claim that they "never attack other churches".

But that's OK, VC. We can either write it off to a newbie error -- OR, we could write it off to typical Mormon distortion -- turning truth on its head. [You let us know which]

456 posted on 11/10/2009 2:21:27 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: RFEngineer; reaganaut; Tennessee Nana
Nobody said you couldn’t bash to your little hearts content and for the glory of God.

Why do you keep bashing away at the posters here? (Is that done to the glory of Anglicanism?) You were saying how "unAmerican" you thought it was for folks to say negative things about another's faith content. Well, you're keeping things fairly negative. You're not very bashful about bashing.

457 posted on 11/10/2009 2:23:58 PM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it!)
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To: Colofornian; Gamecock; RFEngineer; colorcountry; Tennessee Nana; Elsie

If you feel yourself justified in bashing others’ churches, perhaps, in addition to evidently missing the entire book of James, you are missing a few other scriptures in your Bibles:

Prov. 15: 1
1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

Matt. 5: 22
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

James 3: 5-6, 8
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
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8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

John 8: 7
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Matt. 7: 1-2
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

1 Cor. 9: 20
20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

1 Cor. 1:10-13

10 Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
11 For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are bontentions among you.
12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?


458 posted on 11/10/2009 3:13:25 PM PST by VC42
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To: VC42
I bet you were one those saying....during the Lewinsky days...we couldn't judge.

Great!!

Knowing what scripture says is one thing.....knowing the context is everything.

459 posted on 11/10/2009 3:18:33 PM PST by Osage Orange (Obama's a self-made man who worships his own creator...............)
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To: Osage Orange

Pray tell, Orange, what is the context that tells you that “do not judge” actually means “go ahead and judge”?

Did the Lord have his fingers crossed at the time?


460 posted on 11/10/2009 3:28:29 PM PST by VC42
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