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To: wagglebee; TheThirdRuffian; Ransomed; kosta50
"I am absolutely positive that you are WRONG."

And you, W, are absolutely, positively and completely correct!

TTR, where in heaven's name did you get the idea that The Orthodox Church doesn't accept the doctrine that the Most Holy Theotokos and Mother of God was perpetually a Virgin? One of our titles for her is "ἀειπαρθένου Μαρίας", "ever virgin Mary". Where did you think Rome got its devotion to Panagia from? It came from us.

156 posted on 11/03/2009 1:20:59 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

And just when I was thinking the Orthodox were indistinguishable from Baptists, except more beards and fewer baseball caps...

;>)


167 posted on 11/03/2009 1:30:14 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Kolokotronis

“TTR, where in heaven’s name did you get the idea. . . “?

I didn’t. Or at least I didn’t mean to give that impression. I know there is some sort of split, but I think the Roman Church/various Eastern Churches (not just Orthodox) split on Marian issue are the Assumption and the Immaculate Conception.

For historical purposes, this (the ever-virgin dispute) has been around for a long time -— it’s not a protestant thing.

Quintus Septimius Florens Tertullianus, anglicised as Tertullian was a notable early Christian apologist, and became known as “the father of Latin Christianity.”

He had a whole series of splits with what-eventually-became the Roman church, one of which was his rejection of perpetual virginity, contending that James-the-Epistle-writer was, indeed, the half brother of Jesus as the text states, and rejecting some apocryphal text (James proto-something) as a fake.


176 posted on 11/03/2009 1:39:22 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Kolokotronis; wagglebee; TheThirdRuffian; Ransomed; kosta50
Greek Orthodox Christian Byzantine Chant 4
194 posted on 11/03/2009 2:05:29 PM PST by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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