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To: Achi
Wouldn't this need to line up with back to back Sabbaths though?

Consider: [Mark 15:42-47/16:1] 42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, 43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. 45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. 46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. [16:1] 1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

When Stephen Langton, Archbishop of Canterbury put together the Chapter and Verse divisions of Holy scripture (1228 B.C.) he did it without the inspiration of The Holy Spirit. Consequently, many folks are led to believe that the Sabbath in [16:1] is that of Saturday because he begins the 16th chapter with it. When you combine 15:42-47 to 16:1 you can readily see that the Sabbath of 16:1 is the same as 15:42 and then you realize that 16:2 is a different Sabbath.....Saturday. The Greek original has no chapters and verses.....or paragraphs.

What do the women do when the Sabbath is past? They purchase spices. The KJV fudges a bit here by attempting to show it in the past tense but....."Young's Literal Translation" renders it correctly by saying thus: And the sabbath having past, Mary the Magdalene, and Mary of James, and Salome, bought spices, that having come, they may anoint him.

Luke will now show us that the women prepare those spices (obviously on a non Sabbath day) and then they rest for another Sabbath.....Saturday. [Luke 23:56] And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

The Sabbath of [Mark 16:1] is the First Day of Unleavened Bread [Leviticus 23:6], the 15th of Nisan. This fell on a Wednesday night/Thursday daytime in the year of the crucifixion. The women buy the spices after this Sabbath is over.....on Thursday night or Friday daytime....the 16th and a non Sabbath day. They spend much of the day (Friday) in the preparation of those spices. They rest again for the weekly Sabbath beginning at sundown Friday the 17th and visit an empty tomb on Saturday morning at sunrise.....also the 17th.

According to all the Gospels....."He is risen"!

38 posted on 10/30/2009 5:25:24 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
Luke will now show us that the women prepare those spices (obviously on a non Sabbath day) and then they rest for another Sabbath.....Saturday. [Luke 23:56] And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

Hi Diego, you might want to consider the following

Luke 23:54-24:1, Two Sabbaths with Spices prepared between them

 

        The Greek structure shows that the chapter division must go in the middle of the Luke 23:56.  This is because the second half of the verse is one coordinated sentence with Luke 24:1.  This is shown in J.P. Green's Interlinear Bible and explained in the Concordia Commentary by Arthur Just.  This proper chapter division is of critical importance to the chronology.  In 23:54, the annual Sabbath on Thursday that year is referenced.  Then 23:56a tells us that they prepared spices.   The initial verse of the next chapter (23:56b-24:1) fills in the detail that they rested on the annual sabbath, but then brought the spices on the first of the sabbaths after the annual sabbath.   Necessarily then the spices were prepared on Friday between the two Sabbaths.   Mark 16:1 gives us explicit confirmation that the spices were bought after the annual Sabbath.

Photo of J.P. Green's Interlinear:

 *Correction from J.P. Green, John 20:1.

comment: "23:56b-24:1. το μεν σαββατον ... τη δε μια των σαββατων—The μεν ... δε construction links these two days together and prompts consideration of a literary and theological link. (In Nestle-Aland25 23:56b begins a new paragraph that continues with 24:1-11; 23:56b is separated from 24:1 only by a comma.  In Nestle-Aland26 and Nestle-Aland27 23:56b has been separated from Luke 24 and ends with a period.) The close relationship between 23:56b and 24:1 forms the transition from Luke 23 to Luke 24.  The double use of σαββατον and the way Luke has phrased the sentence suggest theological implications as the narrative moves from one day to the next.  This is why 23:56b is best considered part of Luke 24 and the resurrection narrative" (Concordia Commentary, Luke 9:51-24:53, Arthur A. Just Jr., 1997).

 

END OF CHAPTER 23

 

Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. 55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments. 

 

CHAPTER 24

 

 [24:1]  Now they rested the one Sabbath, [[according to the ordinance,]] 24:1 But upon the first of the Sabbaths, at deep dawn, they came unto the sepulcher, bringing the spices which they made ready, and certain others with them"


39 posted on 10/31/2009 10:12:10 AM PDT by Daniel Gregg (www.torahtimes.org)
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To: Diego1618
The Sabbath of [Mark 16:1] is the First Day of Unleavened Bread [Leviticus 23:6], the 15th of Nisan. This fell on a Diego1618, you said:

"Wednesday night/Thursday daytime in the year of the crucifixion. The women buy the spices after this Sabbath is over.....on Thursday night or Friday daytime....the 16th and a non Sabbath day. They spend much of the day (Friday) in the preparation of those spices. They rest again for the weekly Sabbath beginning at sundown Friday the 17th and visit an empty tomb on Saturday morning at sunrise.....also the 17th.

If this is true then why does John say this:

Jhn 19:40 So they took the body of Jesus and bound it in linen cloths with the spices, as is the burial custom of the Jews.

This says Yeshua was already anointed when He was placed in the tomb. The women had time apparently to purchase and prepare the spices before the Feast of Unleavened Bread started. This puts a kink in the argument that there is a gap between the 2 Sabbaths which means it can not be on Wednesday. It could be on a Thursday but Wed means they would have buried Him without anointing Him first but we see in John that they did.

Thoughts?

-Jay

48 posted on 11/02/2009 9:03:38 AM PST by Achi
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