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If he could do that anytime he wanted then what was the point of living a sinless life? An elaborate charade? A show of piety?
Because sinful man could not bear under the fullness of His glory and holiness as God the Son. The point of the man living the sinless life was to be the perfect sacrifice for our sins.

I don't think you quite understand the point or the import of what you're espousing.

Jesus Christ voluntarily gave up an element of his glory to become human. He became human so he could experience all the temptations that we humans do and remain sinless.

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
Php 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
Php 2:7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Php 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,

That's the sequence. That's why he asked to be glorified before his death.

Joh 17:1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You,

The HOUR had come. It hadn't come before. If he could have attained a glorified state without living a full sinless life then there was no reason for his sacrifice. He wasn't risking, or sacrificing, anything.

There's no need to theorize a "temporary" glorification. The ONLY thing that matches up with scripture is that the transfiguration was a vision of a future glorification...Christ IN the kingdom of God.

It fufills his statement:

Mar 9:1 And He said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power."
Mar 9:2 Now after six days Jesus took Peter, James, and John, and led them up on a high mountain apart by themselves; and He was transfigured before them.
Mar 9:3 His clothes became shining, exceedingly white, like snow, such as no launderer on earth can whiten them.
Mar 9:4 And Elijah appeared to them with Moses, and they were talking with Jesus.

He made a statement in verse 1, and then kept the promise by showing those disciples a vision of the future kingdom of God.

I don't think you quite understand the point or the import of what you're espousing. Jesus Christ voluntarily gave up an element of his glory to become human. He became human so he could experience all the temptations that we humans do and remain sinless.

I don't think you understand what you are trying to correct me on. While Jesus voluntarily gave up His glory to become man, He still remained GOD, and retained all prerogatives therein

That's the sequence. That's why he asked to be glorified before his death.

Do you bother to read your proof texts?
Php 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, - statement of His Deity - Who's glory is an inherent characteristic, that He set aside.

Once again you insist upon a non-scriptural interpretation even in the face of Scripture that says otherwise. As pointed out earlier, they were discussing Jesus' impending crucifixion - NOT some 'future' kingdom. Common sense applied liberally.

He made a statement in verse 1, and then kept the promise by showing those disciples a vision of the future kingdom of God.

For a belief system that claims to follow scripture, it is appalling to see how it is abused.

Mar 9:1 And He said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power."

1) till they see Here is that pesky 'eido', actual, physical sight, not a metaphysical 'vision'. In fact the same word is used in all three passages.
2) present Existing or occurring now, not a future event.