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To: DouglasKC
I don't think you quite understand the point or the import of what you're espousing. Jesus Christ voluntarily gave up an element of his glory to become human. He became human so he could experience all the temptations that we humans do and remain sinless.

I don't think you understand what you are trying to correct me on. While Jesus voluntarily gave up His glory to become man, He still remained GOD, and retained all prerogatives therein

That's the sequence. That's why he asked to be glorified before his death.

Do you bother to read your proof texts?
Php 2:6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, - statement of His Deity - Who's glory is an inherent characteristic, that He set aside.

There's no need to theorize a "temporary" glorification. The ONLY thing that matches up with scripture is that the transfiguration was a vision of a future glorification...Christ IN the kingdom of God.

Once again you insist upon a non-scriptural interpretation even in the face of Scripture that says otherwise. As pointed out earlier, they were discussing Jesus' impending crucifixion - NOT some 'future' kingdom. Common sense applied liberally.

He made a statement in verse 1, and then kept the promise by showing those disciples a vision of the future kingdom of God.

For a belief system that claims to follow scripture, it is appalling to see how it is abused.

Mar 9:1 And He said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you that there are some standing here who will not taste death till they see the kingdom of God present with power."

1) till they see Here is that pesky 'eido', actual, physical sight, not a metaphysical 'vision'. In fact the same word is used in all three passages.
2) present Existing or occurring now, not a future event.

67 posted on 11/01/2009 6:43:53 AM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

Thank you for your replies. They are good ones!


72 posted on 11/01/2009 8:32:43 AM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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