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Should be an interesting discussion on these three points:

Definition of Terms:
Interpretation of Tradition:
The Quarrel is over [t]radition not [T]radition:

1 posted on 10/24/2009 1:41:38 PM PDT by Salvation
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2 posted on 10/24/2009 1:43:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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6 posted on 10/24/2009 2:41:39 PM PDT by narses ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
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I am always distressed at the "more Catholic than the Pope" Catholics. That, to me, really seems like a new kind of Protestantism.

So I like what he says about Magisterium and tradition.

7 posted on 10/24/2009 3:31:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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“Reality tells us there are only two religions in the world. There is the religion of human achievement, the religion of works, the religion of the flesh, the religion that says you can be good enough, holy enough, religious enough, spiritual enough. And there is the one other option, the religion of divine accomplishment, the religion of faith, grace, mercy and not of the flesh but of the Spirit and they do not mix.

The scribes and the Pharisees were the architects of and the purveyors of and the exemplars of a religion of human achievement. Their salvation and acceptance with God, their hope of eternal life in heaven depended upon what they did, what they did morally and what they did religiously and ceremonially.

The Lord, however, offered a completely different religion, a religion of faith and grace, depending upon the Holy Spirit, a religion of divine accomplishment where salvation and acceptance and heaven depended on what God did...not what men do. Certainly most of humanity vastly is committed to the religion of human achievement, that men can be good enough, religious enough to gain heaven if they just have a measure of goodness, think good thoughts occasionally, do good deeds. Better yet, if they believe in God, attend some religious services, go through some religious acts or rites or ceremonies...this religion comes in many names and many forms but it is all the same. It is all the wrong choice. It is all Satan, just packaged differently.” ~ John Macarthur


8 posted on 10/24/2009 4:19:53 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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