I'll remember that the next time I see somebody drowning and need to throw them a line.
Or the next time I go rock climbing.
Posted on 10/21/2009 10:32:09 AM PDT by markomalley
I have little to add to my colleague Damian Thompson’s analysis of Pope Benedict XVI’s bold initiative to offer Anglo-Catholics a home under Roman Catholic jurisdiction, without losing their Anglican liturgical identity.
All I would add is that this is marvellous news for the Church of England’s prospects for making up women priests to bishops, without creating an Anglican schismatic bloodbath. Traditional Anglo-Catholics, many of whom do not want to relinquish their Anglican identity, have had nowhere to go on this issue, other than conversion to Rome with a complete abandonment of Anglicanism.
Pope Benedict has thrown them a timely lifeline. He has also thrown one to Dr Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury...
(snip)
...There really is no excuse for Anglo-Catholics who can’t accept women bishops now. They must accept the Pope’s offer, or stay in the Anglican Church and accept women bishops. It’s no longer a case of put up or shut up, but rather go with an Anglican blessing, or stay with the Anglican way.
And so the Church of England can proceed more freely with women bishops. Some will insist on staying within the Anglican Church, to whinge about women’s ordination, but it’s difficult to see why they should not be accepting the Pope’s generous offer to be Roman Catholics in an Anglican way.
(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...
Good news again. We get the orthodox Anglicans while the libs come to ever more powerfully dominate the Anglican Communion helping make it disintegrate. It’s a twofer!
Women bishops of the Anglican Communion can give a good confession and repent of their pride-filled ways. A female bishop of the Anglican Communion can raise herself up spiritually be repenting and becoming a Catholic woman.
This is more winnowing the wheat from the tares.
What is this so called ‘lifeline’? I cannot find any place in my Bible that any flesh being has ever been granted the power of giving ‘life’.
Time will tell just where this all gets sorted out.
What is a tare? Literally?
I'll remember that the next time I see somebody drowning and need to throw them a line.
Or the next time I go rock climbing.
Why would “low church” Anglicans be thrilled with the Pope’s offer? They may not hold the same views of Rome as do the Anglo-Catholic Anglicans but most do believe the Scriptures admonitions of an all male clergy and certainly homosexuality.
If there is a now to be a “lifeboat” for the high church party, then where is the one for the “low church” folks who do not subscribe to or believe the liberal teachings of some of their fellow Anglicans? For surely, now their future in the Anglican Communion will become much more difficult.
And the Catholic church gets more money to help pay out on sex-abuse lawsuits!
Hey all your inflatable and rope is going to ‘save’ is a flesh body. IT is Christ that does the saving for life eternal.
OK, and, your point?
It's a metaphor. Geez...
IF the 'member' of the body does NOT have a clue who IT is that does the 'saving' as suggested by the headline. All the cheering being done as result of this out of the wild blue yonder gathering in as being the path to salvation then there is a world of hurt being planted.
“What is a tare? Literally?”
Weeds. Literally, genus Vicia or vetch.
Vetch grows in the grain fields and is gathered with the wheat and then winnowed.
Nobody was talking about anything particularly spiritual. The author, were you to read the article, was talking about coincidentally extending a lifeline to the remaining portions of the Anglican organization...(by providing a way for the more orthodox portions of the organization to leave in an organized fashion, the fireworks that would erupt such as what has happened in other places, like here in the US, could be avoided)
It’s called a colorful use of metaphor. It is a technique that some writers use. My suggestion is that you don’t read more into it than was intended by the author.
As far as the import of increasing unity, I suggest that you read 1 Cor 12:25 and John 17:11-22, among other verses (but those are the ones that pop into my head off the bat)
This thread has suddenly channelled Monty Python.
You haven’t grown grains, I gather.
If there is a now to be a “lifeboat” for the high church party, then where is the one for the “low church” folks who do not subscribe to or believe the liberal teachings of some of their fellow Anglicans?
Obviously I haven't read this Apostolic Constitution but I wouldn't presume that there is any language in there about low vs. high church. I wouldn't be at all surprised if low-church Anglicans could come over just as easily as high church. After all, how many "high church" Catholic churches are there any more? I can tell you that none of the parishes within fifty miles of my house would have been considered "high church" had they been Episcopalian churches.
WRONG. But I am leaving this thread as the know it alls already given the keys can demonstrate their piousness.
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