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Diocese Refuses to Allow Pax Christi, Former Bishop Hold Parish Event
Catholic WOrld News ^ | 10/7/09

Posted on 10/07/2009 12:17:25 PM PDT by marshmallow

The Diocese of Richmond, which has vetted speakers for orthodoxy since Bishop Francis DiLorenzo was appointed bishop in 2004, has declined to allow Pax Christi to hold an event at a parish because it is not a diocesan organization. Retired Bishop Walter Sullivan had been scheduled to speak at the event.

“I think it's just a big disappointment that we couldn't be at one of our parishes,” he said after the event was held at another location. Bishop Sullivan, now 81, led the diocese from 1974 to 2003.

Richmond Diocese Rejected Pax Christi Kickoff Event


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; paxchristi
"Under New Management"!
1 posted on 10/07/2009 12:17:25 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Pax Xhristi is a dissenting Catholic group. I worked to get them kicked out of meeting at my church.


2 posted on 10/07/2009 12:18:47 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
From Our Lady's Warriors.Dissent>groups and organizations

Pax Christi
(cited in Renew 2000)

This group may be the most widely recognized leftist organization to American Catholics. Long a proponent of nonviolence, Pax Christi promotes "action to transform structures of society." Aligned with liberation theology, "ecological justice," and the usual litany of modernist demands. A member of Catholic Organizations for Renewal.


3 posted on 10/07/2009 12:21:04 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Oops

Pax Christi


4 posted on 10/07/2009 12:21:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

Good for Bishop Francis DiLorenzo!!


5 posted on 10/07/2009 12:22:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow
"Under New Management"!

Thanks be to God! I'm thrilled to see weird Wally put in his place. It's long past time for him to go find a nice quiet corner and stay there...and prat for forgiveness for the horrible way he ran this diocese for so many years.

6 posted on 10/07/2009 12:30:06 PM PDT by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: pgkdan; Salvation
Yeah! Bp. Francis X DiLorenzo done good!

Here's a silly thing. When Walter the Pink was Diocesan the K of C weren't allowed to carry swords when they did their comic-opera honor guard thing. A few days ago Bishop DiLorenzo came to our parish to be part of the 50 years of Dominican ministry celebration and -- wow! -- The flash of Steel!

Walter has GOT to be a tough act for a more or less straight-ahead bishop to follow.

(Personally, I want to revive the Militia Christi and arm 'em all with ARs, Strider folders and Mercworx Shivas, but that's just me.)

7 posted on 10/07/2009 12:42:41 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Salvation; marshmallow
I disagree with Pax Christi right down the line for political reaons (I'm on their e-mailing list so I have kept more-or-less current with their activities) --- but I would like to know what you mean by "dissenting." Have they actually taken positions against the teachings of the Church per se?

I'm asking because I always try to make the distinction between "leftwing politics which I can't stand" and "outright heresy." There's a difference.

Thanks in advance --- I need to be up to speed on this.

8 posted on 10/07/2009 1:26:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Two words; "liberation theology".

Certain aspects of this theology have been condemned by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Pax Christi has been an avid promoter of same.

The short answer to your question is "both of the above". Left wing politics and heresy.

9 posted on 10/07/2009 1:44:38 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
OK, but --- forgive what may seem like obtuseness on my part --- certain aspects of "Liberation Theology" have been condemned by the CDF, but certain other aspects have not been condemned.

As I understand it, the CDF condemned the strands of LT which are strictly Marxist; the assertion that poverty is caused by oppressive capitalism and nothing else; that psychology and morality and religion are only epiphenomena of the economic system; that a commitment to justice requires class antagonism and class struggle; that violent revolution is justified in order to bring about a classless society, which is identified with the Kingdom of God.

Other themes often found in LT can be quite orthodox--- the Instruction explicitly endorsed a "preferential option for the poor", stated that the Church must not be neutral in the face of injustice, and referred to the "crimes" of colonialism and the "scandal" of the arms race.

Now I will readily affirm that there are Marxists and heretics a-plenty in Pax Christi; but Pax Christi as a group doesn't champion Marxism and armed struggle. At least on the official level, they stay clear of that. As far as I know. But there are also in Pax Christi some honest Catholics who are merely horse's asses (and that's puh-thetic but not a sin) and/or whose only fault is that they are somewhat to the Left of Mrs. Don-o's position. (And that's ---- sigh ---allowed.)

And now I must beg your pardon for my long-windedness as well.

But could you be more explicit about Pax Christi outright dissent from Catholic doctrine per se? I am not asking to be aggravating. I kinda need to know. (For one thing, I'm in communication with the Diocese of Knoxville's Peace and Justice guy -- a good man, Paul Simoneau --- on related topics.)

10 posted on 10/07/2009 3:06:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure b. Sullivan will be glad to pass any liberal message along for Pax Christi.

Freegards


11 posted on 10/07/2009 3:44:07 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Now I will readily affirm that there are Marxists and heretics a-plenty in Pax Christi; but Pax Christi as a group doesn't champion Marxism and armed struggle. At least on the official level, they stay clear of that. As far as I know.

Their official web site trumpets absolute nonviolence, it's true. However, in practice, I think it's something of a gray area. Although I haven't really run Pax Christi under the microscope, I know for a fact that Pax Christi affiliates have bestowed awards on and promoted seminars by advocates and apologists of liberation theology.

Furthermore, Pax Christi is deemed worthy of a mention on a prominent Liberation theology website (scroll down to see Pax Christi) if that means anything.

It seems to me that PC "flirts" heavily with the liberation theology field without really getting into a passionate embrace, if that's an appropriate analogy. I think that they try and tread a fine official line of nonviolence but there is a clear history of providing a forum for those who promote LT.

That's probably not the degree of detail and evidence which you were demanding but that's really the limit of my knowledge and competence in this matter.

12 posted on 10/07/2009 6:45:50 PM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow

Good analysis, and thanks. I know for a fact that they sprang to the defense of Zeyala in his Honduran caper, which comes pretty damn close to supporting Marxist thuggery.


13 posted on 10/08/2009 7:03:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Mammalia Primatia Hominidae Homo sapiens. Still working on the "sapiens" part.)
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