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Divine Artificial ZOT-Insemination.
Holy Scripture among others. ^ | October 6, 2009 | maya crisol

Posted on 10/06/2009 8:50:53 AM PDT by mayacrisol

Christ,The Begotten Son of God From Everlasting,was made son of Joseph and Mary according to the flesh by Divine Artificial Insemination.

Rom 1:3
(KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 

Mary was the young virgin chosen by God to bear the child Jesus, whose Spirit is of The begotten Son, whose going forths have been from old from everlasting...and Joseph, from David, from Judah, was Jesus's father in the flesh..fulfilling all prophecies concerning Christ Jesus.

Jesus shared in the same flesh and blood as his brethren so he could be tempted, tried and tested, overcome, and in THIS WAY become a truly sympathetic High Priest.

In Hebrews 2:17 the Greek words translated as, “He had to be made like His brethren in all things,” is, “homoiootheénai hína pánta toís adelfoís.” The Greek word homoiootheénai means, “to be or become like.” The Greek word pánta (adverbially), means, “wholly, altogether, in all ways, in all things, in all respects,” as it is used in Acts 20:35. Therefore Jesus the man was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether.” There’s no doubt from this passages definitions that Jesus was conceived and born as part of the process used to insure he fulfills this description of him. (exerpt from http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-291370-76.htm / http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/conceived.htm)

We should not forget Jesus Christ as prophesied in the scripture will come from the descendants of David, from the Tribe of Judah.

Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Joseph fits this exact description, Mary doesn't. She came from the daughters of Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did.

Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

Aaron does not belong to the Tribe of Judah. He is of the Levites,
Exo 4:14 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.

and Levites do not belong to any of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not numbered among them. Num 1:48 For the LORD had spoken unto Moses, saying, Num 1:49 Only thou shalt not number the tribe of Levi, neither take the sum of them among the children of Israel:

Mary, undoubtedly fits the prophesy as the virgin who shall conceive. She was a virgin, engaged to Joseph, when she conceived.
Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?

Divine Artificial Insemination.
(copied and edited from http://www.datehookup.com/Thread-291370-76.htm    http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/conceived.htm)
The human male reproductive cell, which is known as a sperm, is a motile cell with a head containing the nucleus and a whip like tail with which it swims. The human female reproductive cell, which is known as an egg or ovum, is a rounded cell many times larger than the sperm and containing large amounts of cytoplasm surrounding the nucleus.
The internal deposit of semen occurs in the process of copulation, also known as coitus or sexual intercourse. The male inserts the male genital organ, the penis, into the female genital orifice, the vagina, discharging the semen therein. This process is known as insemination.

Obviously God did not use copulation to produce the motile sperm cell thru insemination. Instead, in a haze of brilliancy His Holy Spirit surrounded Mary as He effortlessly inseminated Joseph's (the decendant of David from the tribe of Judah) male gamete cell within the fertile egg of this virgin woman.

Modern medical science has developed a method of insemination whereby both animal and human spermatozoa can be kept alive outside the body for long periods by freezing. Artificially introduced into the female reproductive tract, such spermatozoa produce pregnancy in a remarkably high percentage of healthy women. For many decades now the method, called artificial insemination, has been used successfully in many animal species, including human reproduction, to produce offspring where either the male or the female is sterile.

Should we think the Creator of the universe incapable of this Divine Artificial Insemination?
Why must we Christians conclude this event beyond reason when mere mortal humans have demonstrated skill and success with artificial insemination?

The human female normally has a 28-day reproductive or menstrual cycle, with ovulation usually occurring about 14 days before the onset of the menstruation. Menstruation is the periodic vaginal discharge in humans and other mammals, which consists of blood and cells shed from the endometrium, or lining of the uterus. Menstruation accompanies a woman's childbearing years, usually beginning between the ages of 10 and 16, at puberty, and most often ceasing between the ages of 45 and 50, at menopause. Menstruation is part of the process that prepares a woman for pregnancy. Each month the lining of the uterus thickens; if pregnancy does not occur, this lining breaks down and is discharged through the vagina. The three to seven days that menstruation lasts is called the menstrual period.
She was most likely between the ages of 16-18 and was in her childbearing years.In most women the menstrual cycle is about 28 days, but it can vary considerably even from one month to another. It was no big deal for God to determine the time of her menstrual cycle.
Hormones in her bloodstream initiate a woman’s menstrual cycle; these hormones stimulate the ovaries, which are the two female organs that produce the ova, aka eggs. Each month, hormones cause an egg in one of the two ovaries to mature and become capable of being fertilized and develop into a fetus. The ovaries also produce hormones of their own, primarily estrogen, which cause the endometrium to thicken. About midway through the menstrual cycle, 14 to 15 days before the next period, the ovary releases the mature egg in a process called ovulation. The egg passes through the Fallopian tube to the uterus. If the egg unites with a sperm on its way to the uterus, fertilization occurs and pregnancy ensues.
During Mary’s ovulation one of her ovary released a mature egg that passed through her Fallopian tube on its way to the uterus; at the instant this happened, God miraculously performed the Divine Artificial Insemination. God artificially inseminated Joseph's sperm cell ; fertilization occurred and the infant Jesus was procreated. This is the exact description of the scientific process that occurred.

So this is how I reconcile the processes used; The virgin Mary’s ovulation was normal and typical; her ovary released a mature egg, as it traveled down the Fallopian tube, God, by the power of The Holy Spirit, inseminated the egg by Divinely artificially inseminating the gamete cell from Joseph (seed of David, of Jeconiah, of Judah) that would unite with her fertile egg, making it now a fertilized egg, which then attached itself to the uterine wall, and the pregnancy began. This is how The child Jesus in the flesh as prophesied, whose Spirit is The Word of God,  The begotten God, The Son of God from everlasting even before He entered the world, whose going forths have been from old, from everlasting, was conceived.

Mary was the young virgin chosen by God to bear the child Jesus, whose Spirit is of The begotten Son, whose going forths have been from old from everlasting...and Joseph, from David, from Judah, was Jesus's father in the flesh..fulfilling all prophecies concerning Christ Jesus. 

If after all these you would still insist on the "NO MALE SEED WAS USED"  Or the "MARY'S SEED ALONE" MYTH, THIS IS WHAT SCIENCE SAYS:
  Uniparental disomy (UPD) occurs when a person receives two copies of a chromosome, or part of a chromosome, from one parent and no copies from the other parent.
Uniparental inheritance of imprinted genes can also result in phenotypical anomalies. Few imprinted genes have been identified, however uniparental inheritance of an imprinted gene can result in the loss of gene function which can lead to delayed development, mental retardation, or other medical problems.
Occasionally, all chromosomes will be inherited from one parent, due to either a sperm fertilizing an empty egg and duplicating itself, or a diploid egg that is not fertilized. The effect is similar to triploidy, with either a molar pregnancy with no embryo if only paternal genes are present, or an embryo with no placenta if only maternal genes are present. Neither condition ever results in a liveborn infant.
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniparental_disomy

 

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Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

Rom 1:3 (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Act 2:30 (KJV) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Look at this curious admission: In Acts 2:30 it says that Messiah came from the fruit of David's loins according to the flesh -- that he was a flesh and blood descendent of David through Joseph
  Obviously Peter did not believe that (according to Peter's testimony). The Holy Spirit, "the Lord, the giver of Life", is sent to divinely fecundate Mary.

Even Peter is not a fan of "Mary's Seed Alone" Fable!

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Other refuted arguments raised by Catholics using the scripture to defend this shall we say "Mary's seed alone" fable :
 1. The Census  Argument
  Luke 2 1In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world.  2(This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.)  3And everyone went to his own town to register. 4So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David.  5He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child.
" ...So since Joseph went to register with Mary only implies that Mary will also register herself there because she herself also belonged to the house and line of David."-catholic
Facts:
Mary came from the daughters of Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did.
Luk 1:5 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth. Luk 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.

Aaron does not belong to the Tribe of Judah. He is of the Levites,
Exo 4:14 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses, and he said, Is not Aaron the Levite thy brother? I know that he can speak well. And also, behold, he cometh forth to meet thee: and when he seeth thee, he will be glad in his heart.

and Levites do not belong to any of the 12 Tribes of Israel.
Num 1:47 But the Levites after the tribe of their fathers were not numbered among them. Num 1:48 For the LORD had spoken unto Moses, saying, Num 1:49 Only thou shalt not number the tribe of Levi, neither take the sum of them among the children of Israel:

Women were generally held to be minors in Roman law they were not allowed to vote or run for political office, and could not hold rights to property. A married woman generally fell under the guardianship of her husband (or his pater familias).  2. Jeconiah's line cursed argument. 

"Joseph didn't have any semen contribution in the flesh of Jesus, the main reasoning being the Jeconiah's line is cursed by God, Jer. 22:30. Thus, disqualifying his descendants to the throne".-catholic

Fact:
Jeconiah repented and so God reversed the curse. http://jewsforjesus.org/answers/prophecy/jeconiah According to the genealogy in Matthew 1:12, Jesus is a descendant of Jeconiah. But Jeconiah was cursed in Jeremiah 22:24 and 22:30:
"As surely as I live," declares the LORD, "even if you, Jehoiachin son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off. This is what the LORD says: "Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule any more in Judah."
Since no descendant of Jeconiah could ever sit on the throne, if Jesus is a descendant of this cursed king, he is disqualified from being the Messiah. If true, then what is Jeconiah doing in the genealogy of Jesus in Matthew's gospel? And how can Jesus qualify to be the Messiah? First of all, we have to wonder why Matthew would ever have included Jeconiah among the ancestors of Jesus if this so obviously disqualified Jesus from being the Messiah. In fact, the Scripture shows that the curse was only short-term, if not altogether reversed by God. There are three parts to the curse on Jeconiah (who is also called Jehoiachin or Coniah): The Scripture shows that in fact none of these took place. Though Zerubbabel did not sit on the throne as king, the fact that Haggai 2:23 uses the same terminology as Jeremiah 22:24 shows that Haggai intended to indicate a reversal of the curse. We have to conclude that in Jeremiah 22:30, "in his lifetime" qualifies the following phrases, and "for" explains that no descendant of his will prosper and rule during his lifetime.

Sources stating that the Messiah will descend from Jeconiah.  
NIV  Zechariah 4:7 “Whata are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’ ”

Zerubbabel descended from Jeconiah NOT from Neri , Shealthiel is son of Jeconiah NOT son of Neri as was written in Luke 3genealogy!
Jewish Encyclopedia
Jehoiachin's sad experiences changed his nature entirely, and as he repented of the sins which he had committed as king he was pardoned by God, who revoked the decree to the effect that none of his descendants should ever become king (Jer. xxii.30; Pesik., ed. Buber, xxv. 163a, b): he even became the ancestor of the Messiah (Tan., Toledot, 20 [ed. Buber, i. 140]).
--Louis Ginzberg, "Jehoiachin," vol. 7 p. 84.
3. Luke3 Genealogy

        genealogy of Mary (Davidic descent of Mary)-catholics

 Fact:
Even if the Luke 3 genealogy could somehow be twisted into a genealogy of Mary, the Messiah must also descend from David's son Solomon.:
1 Chron 28:5-7 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel. And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father. Moreover I will establish his(Solomon's) kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.
The Luke 3 genealogy passes through Nathan and not Solomon, rendering it an invalid vehicle to produce a valid king Messiah. source:http://www.geocities.com/b_r_a_d_99/genealogy1.htm...Rendering Mary's Seed Alone Fable...invalid.

But really, even if we scrap all that, Mary actually came from Aaron just as her cousin Elisabeth did. Not from the tribe of Judah.

Scripture further supports that Jesus could not have come from the descendants of Aaron, because Aaron is a Levite (Priests) Heli, (father of Mary, father in law of Joseph) who was written as father of Joseph instead of Jacob in Luke3 genealogy, is a Priest!  1 Samuel 14:3 And Achias the son of Achitob brother to Ichabod the son of Phinees, the son of Heli the priest of the Lord in Silo, wore the ephod. And the people knew not whither Jonathan was gone. STILL INVALID!

Heb 7:14 (KJV) For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Joseph is the fruit of the loins of David, from the tribe of Judah.. Mary is the blessed virgin who conceived Christ Jesus,The WORD OF GOD, THE SON OF GOD from everlasting, son of Joseph in the flesh,  through the Power of The Holy Spirit. And that's the real story.

4. Solomon disqualified
Solomon was disqualified making Nathan the valid descendant of Jesus through Mary-catholics

LIE!!!!

FACT:
1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee

1Ki 11:32 But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel

1Ki 11:29 And it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him in the way; and he had clad himself with a new garment; and they two were alone in the field:
1Ki 11:30 And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces:
1Ki 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:
1Ki 11:32 But he shall have one tribe for my servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel
1Ki 11:33 Because that they have forsaken me, and have worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon, and have not walked in my ways, to do that which is right in mine eyes, and to keep my statutes and my judgments, as did David his father.
1Ki 11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:
1Ki 11:35 But I will take the kingdom out of his son's hand, and will give it unto thee, even ten tribes.
1Ki 11:36 And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.

1Ki 11:34 Howbeit I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: but I will make him prince all the days of his life for David my servant's sake, whom I chose, because he kept my commandments and my statutes:

1Ki 11:36 And unto his son will I give one tribe, that David my servant may have a light alway before me in Jerusalem, the city which I have chosen me to put my name there.

(1Ki 11:39 And I will for this afflict the seed of David, but not for ever)

GOD SAID HE WILL AFFLICT THE SEED OF DAVID BUT NOT FOREVER!
SOLOMON , SON OF DAVID, IS THE DESCENDANT OF JOSEPH!
TRUE AND FAITHFUL TO HIS OATH IT IS THROUGH SOLOMON THAT GOD FULFILLED THE PROPHESY! NOT THROUGH NATHAN!
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The Prophecies And Scriptural proofs concerning the Prophecies of the Birth of The True Messiah are: 1. Jesus will be born from a virgin. Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

THIS ONE PROPHESY IS FULFILLED IN THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY.

THE REST IN JOSEPH!

2.the Messiah will descend from Jeconiah and Zerubbabel NIV Zechariah 4:7 “Whata are you, O mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’

From Jeconiah because Zerubbabel is Son of Sealthiel and Sealthiel is Son Of Jeconiah. (Not Neri according to Luke3)

3.the Messiah will come from the tribe of Judah. Mic 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.

4.The Christ will come from the seed (according to the flesh! from the fruit of his body! from the fruit of his loins according to the flesh!) of David.

Psalm 89:4 I will establish your seed forever And build up your throne to all generations." Selah.

Psalm 132:11 The LORD has sworn to David A truth from which He will not turn back: "Of the fruit of your body I will set upon your throne.  

Joseph is from the fruit of the body of David according to Scripture. Nowhere in Scripture was it mentioned that Mary is seed of David!

Luk 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. Luk 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David ) Mat 1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David,

Rom 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; Act 2:30 (KJV) Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him,that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

 5. The Messiah must also descend from David's son Solomon.

1 Chron 28:5-7 And of all my sons, (for the LORD hath given me many sons,) he hath chosen Solomon my son to sit upon the throne of the kingdom of the LORD over Israel. And he said unto me, Solomon thy son, he shall build my house and my courts: for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father. Moreover I will establish his(Solomon's) kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day.

6. The Messiah sprang from Judah, of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

Heb 7:14 (KJV) For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

 7. The Messiah took the seed of Abraham, nature of man, He was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether Heb 2:16  For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Heb 2:17  Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

the Greek words translated as, “He had to be made like His brethren in all things,” is, “homoiootheénai hína pánta toís adelfoís.” The Greek word homoiootheénai means, “to be or become like.” The Greek word pánta (adverbially), means, “wholly, altogether, in all ways, in all things, in all respects,” Acts 20:35. Therefore Jesus the man was made to be like his brethren in all ways, in all respects, in all things, wholly and altogether.”

Mary was the fulfilment of the Virgin prophesied to bear the child Jesus Messiah in the flesh.
Joseph is the fulfillment of the person from whom the "seed" of the flesh of the True Messiah would come.
Every seed comes from the loins of Men NOT FROM WOMEN!

Gen 35:10  And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel. Gen 35:11  And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;

Exo 1:5  And all the souls that came out of the loins of Jacob were seventy souls: for Joseph was in Egypt already.

Heb 7:5  And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 

Heb 7:10  For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

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Luk 1:35  And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 
Overshadow ἐπισκιάζω episkiazō ep-ee-skee-ad'-zo to cast a shade upon, that is, (by analogy) to envelop in a haze of brilliancy; figuratively to invest with preternatural influence: - overshadow.
Just Like:
Act 5:15  Insomuch that they brought forth the sick into the streets, and laid them on beds and couches, that at the least the shadow of Peter passing by might overshadow some of them.   

"By the way, Did you Know that Mary's parents (as catholics claim) St. Anne and her husband Joachim and their story is not even found in the Bible? They are just catholic Myths! One that can be thrown out of the window with their Mary's Seed Alone Fable as well! Oh, and sometimes they would also say, Mary is Heli's daughter! ( But in the Bible , the only Heli is Heli, The priest in Shiloh who does not have a daughter! who has two sons Hophni and Phinehas,,both do not know The Lord. -1 Samuel 1,2,3,4 and 1 Kings 2:27 )

Try asking them about this and they will simply direct you to their Catholic Mythology Site!"
The blessed virgin who is Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ in the flesh, as Joseph was his father also in the flesh.
Jesus Christ, before He came into the world is The WORD OF GOD, The WISDOM and The Power of GOD IS THE SON OF GOD already, from old, from everlasting, who was made flesh and lived among us. Pro 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. 
Heb 10:5  Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
Joh 16:28  I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
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1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. 2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

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Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW THAT SINCE THE PROPHECIES CONCERNING THE BIRTH OF THE TRUE MESSIAH WERE NOT FULFILLED IN THE CHRIST WHICH CATHOLICS LEAD ALL CHRISTIANS TO BELIEVE ... THAT CHRIST IS A FALSE CHRIST! AND THEY HAVE DECEIVED EVERYONE OF THEM WHO BELIEVED IN THEIR FALSE CHRIST!

 WHY would the Bible be called The Scripture of Truth if The Truth Is NOT WRITTEN IN IT?

Why would God Ask The Prophets and The Saints to write The Holy Scripture if it wasn't meant to be Understood?

The Scripture was meant to Save people by giving them The Knowledge of Truth. The Scripture was meant to Shine The Light To All!...NOT LEAVE PEOPLE OUT IN THE DARK! (LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO PEOPLE! Encouraging them to remain indolent Without understanding, without Truth, without reason!...LIKE THEIR MYSTERY "MARY'S SEED ONLY" CRAP!)

GOD WILLS ALL MEN TO BE SAVED AND TO COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH!

1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

THE SCRIPTURE IS THE BOOK OF TRUTH. IT'S ALL THERE!

Isaiah 34:16 Seek from the book of the LORD, and read: Not one of these will be missing; None will lack its mate. For His mouth has commanded, And His Spirit has gathered them.

BUT PEOPLE WITH SPIRITS LIKE THEIRS WANT GOD'S PEOPLE TO BE DESTROYED!

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.
People Listen! Do not Believe Those who call "Mystery" what they could not explain from the Scripture!

What Mystery?!? By reading the Scripture and believing in it, all is understood! There is No More Mystery! WHAT THEY CALL MYSTERY ARE ONLY LIES WHICH THEY HAVE DEVISED TO TURN GOD'S PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE TRUTH!
Eph 3:3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Eph 3:4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) Eph 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, asit is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; Eph 3:6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
The Mystery only lies in the hearts and minds of everyone whom they have blinded since time in memorial, Satan has blinded the world to believe and to rest their faith in a Lie which these angels of Satan deceptively call "Mystery". Woe to all People who chose to indolently agree to embrace this Lie instead of SEEKING THE PLAIN AND SIMPLE TRUTH IN THE SCRIPTURE!

Think! All their lies have already been unmasked by almost all Christians! What is their most Obvious Lie? Their Graven Images! Yet even with that most blatant lie, people still choose to follow them! How Amazing is That? But there is one more Lie that is yet to be unmasked...It is their most effective and well kept Lie, It is This! THEIR GREATEST LIE!!! Their false Messiah (Their Christ who was born without the seed from the fruit of the body of David!). That is an even more amazing lie because after all the ages of studying the Scripture...no Christian was able to notice!

2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Glory To God who Alone is Wise! Amen.

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To: mayacrisol
Wait! What is ZOT? The Title was supposed to be “Divine Artficial Inemination” only!

 A ZOT means:

Listen up. A debut post that is specious will be zotted.

The title was changed so that the Religion Forum posters would know to have fun whacking at it like a piñata.

Good bye.

86 posted on 10/06/2009 9:54:01 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator

What? We’re zotting religious crazies? Oh noes! There goes the religion forum. HHOK.


87 posted on 10/06/2009 10:03:22 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: dangus

Viking kitties like variety in their diet.


88 posted on 10/06/2009 10:07:37 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Nope. Mary consented to bear Jesus, so it was NOT an unwanted pregnancy. But nice try.


89 posted on 10/06/2009 10:09:28 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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>> Wait! What is ZOT? The Title was supposed to be “Divine Artficial Inemination” only! <<

Zot iz vutt happens to ze bad boys and girls.


90 posted on 10/06/2009 10:12:11 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: Religion Moderator

Are you saying the kitties would get bored from eating religion crazies day in and day out? ;^)


91 posted on 10/06/2009 10:19:41 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: dangus

LOL!


92 posted on 10/06/2009 10:20:28 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: mayacrisol

>>> The False Messiah is the one they made us believed to have been IMMACULATELY CONCEIVED!

>>> Jesus in The Bible Is The TRUE MESSIAH!

Sorry.... You cannot have it both ways.
The bible is very clear about the immaculate conception.
If Jesus was not immaculately conceived, then He was Not God Incarnate... and THAT my friend is the test which discerns whether someone is speaking from the spirit of the anti-christ or not. It sounds like you have a flawed understanding of what “come in the flesh” actually means.

Jesus Christ existed in His full glory BEFORE he took on the form of corruptible human flesh and bone.

As for your attack on Catholics, I would warn you that all denominations have their own fair share of false doctrines... including my own... which is Baptist. That is not just cause to discredit the bible or reject the concept of the immaculate conception based on your understanding of a single prophecy. There are too many other evidences and proofs available to illustrate that what is in error here is your own research methods and understanding of this particular prophecy.

Jesus was either God come in the flesh, or a complete madman.

The bible is either the infallible word of God, or it is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated against man in his entire history.

I still do not see where you can go with this other than to discredit the bible, or Jesus Christ as the true Messiah.


93 posted on 10/06/2009 10:27:51 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: mayacrisol
What is ZOT?

Something similar to this.


94 posted on 10/07/2009 4:36:44 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Jimmy Carter - now the second worst POTUS ever. BHO [the LIAR] has #1 spot in his sights.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Good luck in your next trip out of the rubber room.

rubber room ...

Rubber room ...

Rubber ...

OOOOOHHHHHHhhhhhhhh ...

NOW I get it!

The "rubber room" is where all those "rubber bibles" and "rubber dictionaries" I keep hearing about came from!

Since I've never been in the "rubber room" ... that must explain why my Bible is made of paper and bound in leather.

95 posted on 10/07/2009 7:54:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dangus

“Nope. Mary consented to bear Jesus, so it was NOT an unwanted pregnancy. But nice try.”

What are you talking about?

Where -— in an obviously joke post, mind you — did your thin skin come up with that I propound that Mary did not “consent to bear Jesus” or that it was an “unwanted pregnancy.”

You read a lot of stuff into posts that just aren’t there, in your effort to be insulted.


96 posted on 10/07/2009 8:36:29 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: mayacrisol
Wait! What is ZOT? The Title was supposed to be “Divine Artficial Inemination” only!


97 posted on 10/07/2009 8:45:27 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: TFMcGuire

“Cousin, I believe, int the wide sense of Jewish relations. Possibly not even close?”

I don’t know.

I’ll put it on my list to read the original text (if we have Luke in original -— maybe only Greek survives), as there are distinct Hebrew/Aramaic words for maternal and paternal cousins and degrees of seperation.


98 posted on 10/07/2009 8:50:59 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Effort to be insulted? I was amused by it, to tell the truth. I didn’t mean “nice try” ironically, if you took it that way.


99 posted on 10/07/2009 3:08:16 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: Religion Moderator; mayacrisol; darkwing104; Old Sarge
In the future, you can use this for ZOTting on religion threads:


100 posted on 10/07/2009 3:40:13 PM PDT by 50mm (AARP is a steaming pile)
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