To: NYer
The Churchs teaching on the necessity of baptism for salvation has not changed. Christ Himself, after His Resurrection, couldnt have spoken more clearly about the need for baptism, when He commanded the Apostles to go forth and baptize... When was the thief on the cross baptized?
To: VRWCmember
The thief on the cross, sometimes referred to as “Dismas”, was possibly Jewish, therefore he held to the Old Covenant and was circumscised at 8 days old. However, his true belief in Jesus came to light when he asked to be remembered when Jesus entered his kingdom. This faith alone was enough at that time to ensure his salvation.
7 posted on
10/01/2009 6:42:43 AM PDT by
melissa_in_ga
(God Bless Sarah Palin)
To: VRWCmember
When was the thief on the cross baptized? On the cross ... baptism of desire.
10 posted on
10/01/2009 6:44:01 AM PDT by
NYer
( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
To: VRWCmember
How do you know the thief on the cross WASN’T baptized?
To: VRWCmember
The Churchs teaching on the necessity of baptism for salvation has not changed.The phrase in the catechism is "ordinarily necessary". Instances of salvation without baptism are envisioned.
27 posted on
10/01/2009 7:23:01 AM PDT by
Mad Dawg
(Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
To: VRWCmember
When was the thief on the cross baptized? The thief on the cross encountered Jesus face to face during His crucifixion. To give some acknowledgment that such a conversion is unusual wouldn't be unreasonable.
Then, of course, there are the rest of us.
46 posted on
10/01/2009 7:47:10 AM PDT by
the invisib1e hand
("Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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