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To: NYer
The Church’s teaching on the necessity of baptism for salvation has not changed. Christ Himself, after His Resurrection, couldn’t have spoken more clearly about the need for baptism, when He commanded the Apostles to go forth and baptize...

When was the thief on the cross baptized?

3 posted on 10/01/2009 6:34:59 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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The thief on the cross, sometimes referred to as “Dismas”, was possibly Jewish, therefore he held to the Old Covenant and was circumscised at 8 days old. However, his true belief in Jesus came to light when he asked to be remembered when Jesus entered his kingdom. This faith alone was enough at that time to ensure his salvation.


7 posted on 10/01/2009 6:42:43 AM PDT by melissa_in_ga (God Bless Sarah Palin)
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When was the thief on the cross baptized?

On the cross ... baptism of desire.

10 posted on 10/01/2009 6:44:01 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: VRWCmember

How do you know the thief on the cross WASN’T baptized?


26 posted on 10/01/2009 7:21:29 AM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: VRWCmember
The Church’s teaching on the necessity of baptism for salvation has not changed.

The phrase in the catechism is "ordinarily necessary". Instances of salvation without baptism are envisioned.

27 posted on 10/01/2009 7:23:01 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin: pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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When was the thief on the cross baptized?

The thief on the cross encountered Jesus face to face during His crucifixion. To give some acknowledgment that such a conversion is unusual wouldn't be unreasonable.

Then, of course, there are the rest of us.

46 posted on 10/01/2009 7:47:10 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("Isn't the Golden Mean the secret to something," I parried? "Yes," Blue replied. "Mediocrity.")
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