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To: lightman; kosta50

“Western Rite Antiochian.”

You know Father, that’s a real non starter. One of the best aspects of Orthodoxy is that it is what it is, glory and warts together. We traditionally don’t go to some non-Orthodox land and pretend we are the same as the local traditional “denomination” but with an Eastern accent. Take us as we are, as counter-cultural as we are. That’s what Christianity is, Father counter-cultural, especially here in America.

“There are some truly outstanding female clergy in the leadership of this organization: read Pr. Erma Wolf’s closing sermon to the gathering at Fishers.”

Among the very holiest people I know are the nuns, including my cousin, at the monastery outside my maternal village down in Greece. The majority of them, probably 80%, were professional women in the world. Their holiness humbles me...and Father, they have neither the desire nor the compulsion to be something they can never, properly, be, priests. They are something better, true spiritual Olympians!


17 posted on 09/28/2009 4:16:43 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; Honorary Serb
Among the very holiest people I know are the nuns, including my cousin, at the monastery outside my maternal village down in Greece. The majority of them, probably 80%, were professional women in the world.

At one of the first STS Chapter Retreats--one which +Michael McDaniel of blessed memory attended as teaching theologian--was also attended by a Roman priest who commented that one of the crises of our mutual ministries is that Lutherans have not embraced the gift of celibacy and Rome has not embraced the gift of a married presbytery. That observation seems quite germain to your comment.

18 posted on 09/28/2009 5:03:46 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini.)
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