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1 posted on 09/22/2009 7:29:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NOPE - but you gotta forgive him/her.


3 posted on 09/22/2009 7:31:41 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: SeekAndFind

Does the poster really think any human knows what God expects, or just what someone may think God expects?


4 posted on 09/22/2009 7:34:05 AM PDT by stuartcr (If we are truly made in the image of God, why do we have faults?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Does God Expect Me to Stay Married to a Jerk?

I think you mean "does God expect me to continue to live with a jerk"?

You will always be married to him, irrespective of what the judge says.

7 posted on 09/22/2009 7:36:39 AM PDT by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: SeekAndFind

A simple rejoinder ...

You are with some boyscouts in canoes approaching a waterfall, and one containing three boys - one is your son — turns over. Two cling to the canoe and your son is alone in the water.

Who do you save?

Correct answer is you save your son.

Your future grief will be over losing two, whereas your future happiness will radiate among others, including your own self.


9 posted on 09/22/2009 7:42:00 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: SeekAndFind

Elizabeth Edwards?


10 posted on 09/22/2009 7:43:25 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I invite anyone who is against divorce to spend a week with my ex wife.

She’ll make a believer out of you.


11 posted on 09/22/2009 7:43:36 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: SeekAndFind

The correct answer is: Don’t marry a jerk in the first place.


12 posted on 09/22/2009 7:50:36 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: SeekAndFind

God Himself is divorced.

One simply cannot study a NIV or NASB or NKJV or any other of these new-fangled versions and expect to find truth.The best study tools available are geared to the KJV.

Divorce is a sin, but Christ Jesus offered us a new start, a sort of resurrection every time we repent.

In twenty years of counseling, I can tell you that God does not expect His children to live in turmoil in a house divided.


16 posted on 09/22/2009 7:55:28 AM PDT by SentForth5 (Just sayin' is all...)
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To: SeekAndFind
I believe no one should get married. People change over the course of a lifetime and you will not be married to the same person you married 10 years before.

Anybody doubt that look at your spouse now vs when you got married.

17 posted on 09/22/2009 7:57:51 AM PDT by GUNGAGALUNGA
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To: SeekAndFind

I see two questions being asked on this post. First is an epistemological question: can I know God’s will? The second question is more axiological, namely, how does that knowledge affect my relationship with a “jerk”? Although God not not revealed everything about Himself, that does not mean that I can’t know something about God. God has revealed what he wants us to know about Him through the Scriptures. If we don’t accept the Scriptures as being our epistemological authority, then we are left to our own imagination and/or superstition. We know that Scripture teaches that marriage is to be a life long monogamous heterosexual union. Anything short of that is contrary to God’s will. Divorce is the result of sin or the hardness of our hearts. Because of sin, God allowed the state (civil law) to issue a divorce for two reasons: adultery and desertion. Before you get married, keep your eyes wide open, and after you get married keep them half shut. People get married for the wrong reasons, and they all too often fail to understand what it means to be married. The person that you married was a jerk before you got married, so what did you expect?


29 posted on 09/22/2009 8:18:50 AM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: SeekAndFind

Selfishness is not the cause of divorce.


31 posted on 09/22/2009 8:26:15 AM PDT by bvw
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course not. There is entire tractate in the Talmud on divorce.


51 posted on 09/22/2009 8:57:08 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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Matthew 19:9

“And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for unchastity, and marries another, commits adultery.”

No one has to tolerate adultery or lewd behavior from their spouse.


53 posted on 09/22/2009 9:05:22 AM PDT by dajeeps
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“What are the top three causes of divorce?”
1. I can’t get along with her boy friends
2. When did she close the savings account
3. Mail from the abortion clinic


58 posted on 09/22/2009 9:35:57 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


71 posted on 09/22/2009 10:41:36 AM PDT by RightField (A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting. Dr. Laura talks about 3 exceptions to staying in a marriage, the AAA (”triple A”). Abuse, adultery, and addiction.

While my little ones were playing in the bathtub, I managed to read the beginning of St. Catherine of Siena’s “Dialogues”. She talks of suffering being of no merit unless it is united with Christ’s love. Here is a paragraph:

Then, the Eternal Truth seized and drew more strongly to Himself her desire, doing as He did in the Old Testament, for when the sacrifice was offered to God, a fire descended and drew to Him the sacrifice that was acceptable to Him; so did the sweet Truth to that soul, in sending down the fire of the clemency of the Holy Spirit, seizing the sacrifice of desire that she made of herself, saying: “Do you not know, dear daughter, that all the sufferings, which the soul endures, or can endure, in this life, are insufficient to punish one smallest fault, because the offense, being done to Me, who am the Infinite Good, calls for an infinite satisfaction? However, I wish that you should know, that not all the pains that are given to men in this life are given as punishments, but as corrections, in order to chastise a son when he offends; though it is true that both the guilt and the penalty can be expiated by the desire of the soul, that is, by true contrition, not through the finite pain endured, but through the infinite desire; because God, who is infinite, wishes for infinite love and infinite grief. Infinite grief I wish from My creature in two ways: in one way, through her sorrow for her own sins, which she has committed against Me her Creator; in the other way, through her sorrow for the sins which she sees her neighbors commit against Me. Of such as these, inasmuch as they have infinite desire, that is, are joined to Me by an affection of love, and therefore grieve when they offend Me, or see Me offended, their every pain, whether spiritual or corporeal, from wherever it may come, receives infinite merit, and satisfies for a guilt which deserved an infinite penalty, although their works are finite and done in finite time; but, inasmuch as they possess the virtue of desire, and sustain their suffering with desire, and contrition, and infinite displeasure against their guilt, their pain is held worthy. Paul explained this when he said: If I had the tongues of angels, and if I knew the things of the future and gave my body to be burned, and have not love, it would be worth nothing to me. The glorious Apostle thus shows that finite works are not valid, either as punishment or recompense, without the condiment of the affection of love.”


74 posted on 09/22/2009 10:47:57 AM PDT by blackpacific
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To: SeekAndFind
Will we truly trust him in all things, including while we suffer marital maelstroms? Will we follow Christ when it is most difficult? If we won’t, then not only will we fail in our witness, we will never know the freedom of living by faith.

This kind of stuff has kept too many believing women in too many terrible situations. Faith in God has nothing to do with one's marital status.

Please do not think I am suggesting that the person suffering physical abuse remain in a situation whereby he or she is subjected to physical harm. I am not! However, that is a topic for another time, as I am presently addressing divorce for no other reason than the failure to achieve personal “happiness.”

Oh, spare me. Abuse need not only be physical, and "happiness", in quotes, is an insult.

94 posted on 09/22/2009 11:38:10 AM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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To: SeekAndFind

A marriage takes a society to recognize it and not to work against it.

A marriage takes adults.

A marriage takes self-respect and respect for the other.

What is the cause of divorce? There are many causes, and some are good causes.

A selfish person should marry, a selfless person should consider a divorce.


98 posted on 09/22/2009 11:48:27 AM PDT by bvw
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read


145 posted on 09/23/2009 7:35:40 AM PDT by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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Does God Expect Me to Stay Married to a Jerk?

Well now, Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

So since God is a divorcee, and He did tell us why He divorced Israel, the question would then need be what does it mean to be a jerk?

152 posted on 09/26/2009 3:48:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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