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To: Dr. Eckleburg

see my post #50....this is not official doctorine of the catholic church.....just a tool that catholic bashers use, and use often


170 posted on 09/22/2009 4:14:58 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am racist, hear me roar....I don't give a crap anymore....)
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To: joe fonebone; starlifter; Revelation 911; FormerLib
this is...just a tool that catholic bashers use, and use often

Hey, if you want to call pope John Paul II and your cardinals and over 500 bishops "catholic bashers," go right ahead. Or do as starlifter did and equate them to "Dan Brown."

It's not the first time the RCC offers different doctrines and confused theology and outright blasphemy to its congregations...

CARDINALS' LETTER PROMOTING MARIAN DOGMA
"Over 500 Bishops Have Sent Their Request for This Solemn Definition"

"we, the undersigned cardinals and bishops who have convened in the favored Marian Shrine of Fatima (May 3-7, 2005), wish to express to you, Most Holy Father, our united hope and desire for the solemn papal definition of the doctrine of the Church regarding Mary Most Holy as the Spiritual Mother of all humanity, the Co-redemptrix with Jesus the Redeemer, Mediatrix of all graces with Jesus the one Mediator, and Advocate with Jesus Christ on behalf of the human race...

Maybe you missed the many times pope John Paul II said Mary was the "Co-Redemptrix."

From Mary, Coredemptrix: The Significance of Her Title in the Magisterium of The Church by Rev. John A. Schug, O.F.M. Cap. and Dr. Mark I. Miravalle, S.T.D. John Paul II WROTE...

"The silent journey that begins with her Immaculate Conception...finds on Calvary a particularly important moment. There also, accepting and assisting at the sacrifice of her Son, Mary is the dawn of Redemption; and there her Son entrusts her to us as our Mother....Crucified spiritually with her crucified Son (cf. Gal. 2:20), she contemplated with heroic love the death of her God, she "lovingly consented to the immolation of this Victim which she herself had brought forth" (Lumen Gentium, 58)...At Calvary she united herself with the sacrifice of her Son that led to the foundation of the Church [pg. 7, no. 5].[57]

Mary is not the dawn of our redemption in the manner of an invert, passive instrument....Mary's participation was real and effective. In giving her consent to the message of the Angel, Mary agreed to collaborate in the entire work of mankind's reconciliation with God [Pg. 7, no. 4].[58]

As she was in a special way close to the Cross of her Son, she also had to have a privileged experience of His Resurrection. In fact, Mary's role as co-redemptrix [corredentor] did not cease with the glorification of her Son [pg. 7, no. 6].[59]

May Mary our Protectress, the Co-redemptrix [la Corredentrice], to whom we offer our prayer with great outpouring, make our desire generously correspond to the desire of the Redeemer.[60]

Now begins the great rewrite, when the popes and bishops and cardinals didn't really mean what they wrote.

Sure they did. And do. And will, until, God willing, they are given God's grace to see their manifest error.

(I pinged FormerLib to this post and the really big red font of pope John Paul II's comment on whom RCs pray to, since FormerLib has told US that "we don't pray to the saints. To insist that we do is bearing false witness against us.")

198 posted on 09/22/2009 9:56:22 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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