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Judge Urges Mediation in 'Honor Killing' Custody Case (Rifqa's Dad Blasts her Christian Pastor)
ABC News ^ | 9/19/2009 | DAN HARRIS, MARIECAR FRIAS and AYANA HARRY

Posted on 09/20/2009 4:54:44 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Florida judge declined today to decide whether a 17-year-old girl should be sent home to her Muslim parents in Ohio or allowed to stay in Florida with a couple of Christian pastors.

Circuit Judge Daniel Dawson instead urged the lawyers, the girl, her parents and the pastors to settle the custody issue in mediation.

In the meantime, Fathima Rifqa Bary was ordered to remain under the jurisdiction of Florida's Department of Children and Families.

The teenager, who goes by the name of Rifqa, has told Florida authorities that she fled her home in July because she had secretly converted to Christianity and that her father was bound by his Muslim faith kill her for leaving Islam.

"They have to kill me because I'm a Christian. It's an honor [killing]," she tearfully told ABC Orlando affiliate WFTV last month.

She was discovered living with Christian pastor, Blake Lorenz, and his wife, Beverly, who Rifqa said she met online.

Dawson sealed a report about the girl today, just hours before the hearing. The report on Rifqa Bary was carried out by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement.

Also before today's hearing, Rifqa's father spoke out for the first time on national television to "Good Morning America," saying his daughter's claims are completely "not true" and that she is being manipulated by people in the Christian community.

"I don't believe my daughter would say this," Rifqa's father, Mohamed Bary, told "GMA." "She's completely being coached -- I mean trained, influenced by these people. It's so sad."

The Barys blame the girl's actions on the Lorenzes and believe the Lorenzes coaxed her into claiming the honor killing, though they admit they would prefer if their daughter was Muslim.

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TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; Islam; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: christians; conversion; exmuslims; honorkilling; islam; mhmmdnsm09202009; rifqabary; taqiyya
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To: kalee

***How long until she turns 18?***

Does it matter? Many years ago a family from the USSR imigrated to the US. Later they returned to the USSR but their 16 year old son ran away before they left.

The USSR tried many ways to get him back as he was underaged. The US found all sorts of ways to keep him here till he turned 18 and declared he wanted to remain in the US.


41 posted on 09/21/2009 10:48:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (That's reicest you dirty rat dog Reicest you! Reicest I say! I gonna cutchu boy!)
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To: muawiyah

I’ve read that the Koran itself doesn’t proscribe an Earthly execution for apostates, rather it says to let them think as they will. The punishment of death comes in the next life. This is all Islamic doctrine of course, I’m a Christian, I’m just describing it academically.

Now, there is no denying that many sects of Islam do carry out such punishments, but not all Muslims are that way. The more isolated and backwards sects do, but the Muslims that have more dealings with non-Muslims are, by necessity, less backwards and violent. At least they tend to be.


42 posted on 09/21/2009 11:20:12 AM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free.)
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To: LifeComesFirst

Are you willing to bet this girls life on your ‘understanding’?


43 posted on 09/21/2009 11:23:49 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: LifeComesFirst
I've read the Koran in the two best English language translations, and it says "kill the apostates".

It's not like they just walk up to an apostate and kill him though. They offer him a chance to recant, and if he doesn't then they kill him.

That's the Koran.

Concerning the Hypocrites who distort the words of the Prophet the Koran provides for death in their case too.

There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it ~ just kill the deviationists.

Obviously some people get away with Hypocrisy and found new Islamic sects. They and their followers have to watch out forever after because members of other sects may kill them.

Remember, all the BS in Islam occurs outside the Koran in misrepresentation of the Hadiths (the sayings of the Prophets followers, and other materials), or in that vast body called Sharia Law.

Many Moslems place more faith in Sharia than the Hadiths or the Koran.

44 posted on 09/21/2009 12:17:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lurker

I wouldn’t bet anybody’s life but my own on anything. Would you bet your next paycheck on the word of a teen runaway?


45 posted on 09/21/2009 9:06:27 PM PDT by LifeComesFirst (Until the unborn are free, nobody is free.)
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To: LifeComesFirst; muawiyah; Lurker

He probably listens to Cat Stevens records.


46 posted on 09/21/2009 9:11:16 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Ronin
And that poor girl will still be dead.

We had better pray to God that an "underground railroad" is being prepared for her for the next ten months. In my opinion this is the same as runaway slaves prior to the Civil War. If they are found out, they were returned to their "owners" and beaten or worse as an example to others.

Of course, if this drags on until it is less than six-months until her 18th birthday, she would have a better case at emancipation.

47 posted on 09/21/2009 9:54:24 PM PDT by CedarDave (FOX news: "Fair and balanced. We report because they don't want to.")
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