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The campaign for Catholic women priests: 'stealth priestesses' break cover
Telegraph ^ | September 16, 2009 | Damian Thompson

Posted on 09/19/2009 3:28:07 PM PDT by NYer

Chris Gillibrand of Cathcon has this picture of the “pastoral team” of a parish in Linz, Austria, a diocese where crypto-Protestant liberal priests disguise their women friends as ordained clergy. The woman on the right is dressed in a garment clearly indicating that she is a deacon. In fact – no offence – she is no more a Catholic deacon than the MacBook on which I’m writing this post.

Women masquerading as ordained Catholic clergy in Linz

Women masquerading as ordained Catholic clergy in Linz

“Stealth priestesses” is the way these ladies are described by their opponents (ie, orthodox Catholics). The use of the word “priestess” might seem rude – but, remember, the Roman Catholic Church is irrevocably committed to an all-male priesthood, so the prospect of Catholic women priests or deacons will always be Tabletista fantasy.

What may well happen, however, is that parishes and even dioceses will secede from the Church: this is highly unlikely in Britain – but in parts of Germany and Austria most parishes offer a liturgy which is already barely recognisable as Catholicism, inspired by liberal theology considerably to the Left of mainstream Anglicanism.

My guess is that, 15 or 20 years down the line, these churches (along with a certain magazine) will have found a new home in an Episcopal communion modelled on the American Episcopal Church (TEC) rather than the Church of England. And you have to wonder: might the Catholic Church actually be healthier as a result?

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; ordination; priesthood; religousleft; womenpriests
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1 posted on 09/19/2009 3:28:07 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
Shades of Mary Ramerman .... from the Rochester Diocesan parish of Corpus Christi.

You can read the story, here.

2 posted on 09/19/2009 3:32:02 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Apologies for the missing graphic.

From Wikipedia

Mary Ramerman is one of the founders of the Spiritus Christi sect in Rochester, New York. Ramerman, a Californian and convert to Catholicism from Methodism who wished to become a Catholic priest, was encouraged by Rev. James Callan, who was serving as Administrator of Corpus Christi parish in Rochester, New York, to migrate to his parish to join the staff.

[edit] Excommunication

After several years of controversy, in 1998 Diocese of Rochester Bishop Matthew Clark transferred Rev. Callan from Corpus Christi Church, in order to bring the parish back into line (under the orders of the head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI). A group of Corpus Christi Church members then started a new community which seceded from the Roman Catholic Church under the leadership of Ramerman and others, and Callan shortly joined them in the "New Faith Community" as it was called until it took on the permanent name of "Spiritus Christi Church" in August, 1999. Both Ramerman and Callan were declared to have excommunicated themselves (excommunication latae sententiae) by the Bishop.

A few years later, the community invited Bishop Peter Hickman from the Old Catholic Church in California to ordain Mary Ramerman as a Catholic priest on November 17, 2001 at Rochester's Eastman Theatre, and later on February 22, 2003 he returned to ordain Denise Donato a Catholic priest at the historic Hochstein music hall. Spiritus Christi Church recently celebrated its tenth anniversary in 2008. Ramerman continues to serve the community to this day.

3 posted on 09/19/2009 3:34:50 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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15 or 20 years down the line, these churches (along with a certain magazine) will have found a new home in an Episcopal communion modelled on the American Episcopal Church (TEC)

I doubt they will be around in twenty years. Most euro churches survive now only because of the aged faithful. Once they die off, few will be interested enough to bother taking their places. These women in their funny clothes will end up being government social workers.

4 posted on 09/19/2009 3:36:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard (truth--the liberal's kryptonite.)
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Roman Catholics aren't the only ones that wrestle with this issue. The cry for women priest is based upon a secular or worldly understanding of equality, and not upon a theological foundation. Most “conservative” denominations that allow women priests/pastors because have an anemic understanding of the office. They tend to see everything in terms of function and utility rather than an as a participation in Christ's office. A woman priest is an ecclesiastical version of same sex marriage. The Bridegroom is now a woman.
5 posted on 09/19/2009 3:40:25 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: NYer

We had an election in my neighborhood today, and I was elected President Of The United States :)


6 posted on 09/19/2009 3:49:39 PM PDT by MrLuigi (incompetence)
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To: Nosterrex; trad_anglican

Absolutely right! In fact, since the Anglican Church approved ordination of women priests, the number of male candidates has continued to shrink. We have seen a similar phenomenon in the Catholic Church since certain dioceses approved girl altar servers. Our Maronite bishop has told the priests in his diocese (the eastern half of the US) to drop female altar servers.


7 posted on 09/19/2009 3:57:39 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: Nosterrex

I don’t think there are any conservative Catholic women who want to become priestesses. You would think they would show up on places like FR if they are out there. Anytime you hear about these ladies wanting to be priestesses, they are ALWAYS wackadoo libs who dig baby butchery and the homosexualist agenda.

Freegards


8 posted on 09/19/2009 4:00:29 PM PDT by Ransomed (Son of Ransomed Says Keep the Faith!)
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9 posted on 09/19/2009 4:01:25 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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To: NYer

These people are not religious. They are anti-religion.


10 posted on 09/19/2009 4:06:11 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ransomed

Exactly. I almost think their agenda isn’t to serve God but to destroy the church.


11 posted on 09/19/2009 4:07:09 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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“Our Maronite bishop has told the priests in his diocese (the eastern half of the US) to drop female altar servers.”

Um, NYer, why were they allowed in the first place? I can guess, but that would probably be unfair.


12 posted on 09/19/2009 4:08:18 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: NYer

I don’t know what all you Catholics are fussing about. The ordination of women priests has worked out so well in the Episcopal Church. /sarc


13 posted on 09/19/2009 4:11:25 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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I went to a few Episcopal church services run by women.... shudder... I really didn’t need to hear about “female” problems and their stupid kids during sermons. There was NO sense of the spiritual at all.


14 posted on 09/19/2009 4:19:07 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: NYer

If you don’t like the rules, find another church.


15 posted on 09/19/2009 4:51:03 PM PDT by FES0844
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To: MrLuigi

We must get together to discuss an alliance. I am Queen of Sweden. My dogs say so.


16 posted on 09/19/2009 4:51:14 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: NYer

Hiding the “stealth” “priestesses” in plain sight. Yeah, not so sure about that strategy.


17 posted on 09/19/2009 5:25:05 PM PDT by Desdemona (True Christianity requires open hearts and open minds - not blind hatred.)
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the surviving church, i sometimes think, won't resemble the church as we know it today.

It would be just like God to do that.

18 posted on 09/19/2009 7:27:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (hang the Czars.)
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To: MrLuigi

wow....you too


19 posted on 09/19/2009 8:21:57 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but interested and informed)
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To: FES0844

If you don’t like the rules, find another church.

sorry, I’m experimenting....I didn’t know how to get the other person’s statement into my reply area


20 posted on 09/19/2009 8:27:15 PM PDT by terycarl (lurking, but interested and informed)
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