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To: Iscool; dsc
One would think that Catholics would eventually admit that being Catholic does NOT automatically mean you are a member of the Body of Jesus Christ...

First of all, it's not a matter of "being Catholic," it's being baptized. If you're baptized validly, you've been made a member of the Body even as a heretic.

Second of all, we don't go in for any of this nonsense that people are ensured salvation at some point when they become a member of the Body. As Christ said, the tares grow with the wheat in the Kingdom of Heaven--and no man can tell them apart until the former are brought out to be burned.

43 posted on 09/17/2009 6:32:24 AM PDT by Claud
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To: Claud
First of all, it's not a matter of "being Catholic," it's being baptized. If you're baptized validly, you've been made a member of the Body even as a heretic.

Wow, that is staggering, honestly ... I couldn't disagree more ...
45 posted on 09/17/2009 6:33:51 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Claud
First of all, it's not a matter of "being Catholic," it's being baptized. If you're baptized validly, you've been made a member of the Body even as a heretic

All Christians are baptized. I understand some sects claim that isn't true. All baptized people are part of the Body of Christ. All from the Church perspective are part of the flock even if they refuse to recognize that fact.

Christians in union with Rome, are Catholics. There are Catholics that are not in union with Rome, and they are called various names, but are excluded from Communion.

Only Catholics who are in good standing with the Church, following the requirements, may take Communion, all others are denied this privilege.

This is not difficult, if you are baptized you are part of Christs flock. The Church considers you one of its own from that point forward.

Its also why its a sure indicator that people are being stupid by saying "Catholic Christian". its like saying I am a "Human Mammal"

52 posted on 09/17/2009 7:14:09 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: Claud; dsc
Hey dsc, where you at??? Talk to me...

As Christ said, the tares grow with the wheat in the Kingdom of Heaven--and no man can tell them apart until the former are brought out to be burned.

Problem is, the tares get baptized right along with the wheat...

I guess what you are saying is that once you get baptized, you automatically turn into wheat...But then we're getting down to the brass tacks...Everyone who can make the claim of being Catholic has been baptized...Therefore, there are no tares mixed in with the Catholic wheat...There could be no tares in your Catholic church...And of course that's not true...AND, you just shot to pieces the scripture you use to show there are tares and wheat in your Catholic church...

You have to really mangle the scripture to come to your conclusion...

I'll continue an another post...

53 posted on 09/17/2009 7:15:19 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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