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To: Salvation
Caution and prudence suggests we should always be leery of claims such as these and, above all, OBEY THE CHURCH.

Having said that, I hope others on this forum could research to confirm what I remember about Betania.

If I recall correctly, the local Bishop DID have positive findings about aspects of Betania, but also CONDEMNED much of the "locutional" activity of Maria Esperanza as an individual, especially in later years. I think she died within the past couple of years. I don't remember specifics since I probably didn't think (and still don't) it all that important.

In any event, just a word of advice to, perhaps, dig a little deeper on the specifics of Betania and what the Church has approved of it vis-a-vis this woman and where and when the association between the two runs afoul of the Church's decision concerning the Betania event.

It's late. I think I made that as clear as mud. In any event, I'll remember to pray for her soul.

17 posted on 09/16/2009 12:38:36 AM PDT by TotusTuus
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To: TotusTuus

I can confiirm this, Maria Esperanza in particular was condemned.


18 posted on 09/16/2009 3:16:08 AM PDT by Dominick ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." - JP II)
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To: TotusTuus
If I recall correctly, the local Bishop DID have positive findings about aspects of Betania, but also CONDEMNED much of the "locutional" activity of Maria Esperanza as an individual, especially in later years. I think she died within the past couple of years. I don't remember specifics since I probably didn't think (and still don't) it all that important.

I think you're substantially correct, though, I don't think there was an outright condemnation, but a lack of approval. I could be wrong, but I do recall having to remind myself that her locutions are not approved by the Church, though the visions and the happenings at the site (e.g. the Eucharistic miracle) of Betania are authenticated.

In any event, just a word of advice to, perhaps, dig a little deeper on the specifics of Betania and what the Church has approved of it vis-a-vis this woman and where and when the association between the two runs afoul of the Church's decision concerning the Betania event.

Sage words.

37 posted on 09/16/2009 9:02:52 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: TotusTuus

I didn’t get into the locutions. Although I believe those with Padre Pio have been approved.


42 posted on 09/16/2009 9:09:31 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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