There is nothing quite so intolerant as the religious right. Obviously this segment of society lives off in some dream world because in most of America, people work together. If you came into this small community and showed this sort of hypocracy, you would be shunned, as you would in most communities. Who do you think the community is? It is all the people, regardless of what church they attend. If you go stomping on their rights to worship as they see fit, and your house catches on fire, who do you think is going to be on the volunteer fire department? You should ask yourself,,,will they make a 3 minute response, or will it take the trucks 13 minutes to get to your fire? Same with the ambulance, same with the merchants.
If you have not lived or worked amongst these people you should not be judging them. They bother no one, and they will sure be amongst the first to help out others, unlike most of the main stream religions.
Many of us who post on this particular subject, once belonged, or still belong to these communities as members of this sect.
I was born a sixth generation Mormon into a family who has resided and still resides in an almost 100% LDS town in the heart of Southern Utah since 1864, isolated from the nearest city of any size by at least 200 miles.
I know what I am posting about. Why do you think you somehow have more experience to speak of?
(Except, perhaps, those intolerant of the religious right?)
Obviously this segment of society lives off in some dream world because in most of America, people work together.
So, are you willing to work together with the religious right?
If you go stomping on their rights to worship as they see fit, and your house catches on fire, who do you think is going to be on the volunteer fire department?
I've said on repeated threads that Christian and Mormons work together @ Boy Scout meetings all the time. Christians and Mormons worked together in defeating Prop 8. (Is that a revelation to you that we don't recognize the obvious?)
As for "stomping on their rights to worship as they see fit," what? Does "the religious right" block the doors to Mormon meetinghouses or something? Are Lds stakes and wardhouses' parking lots blockaded by "the religious right" (No? Whew!!! I thought you were reporting on some "breaking news" or something)
If you meant by that "no religious disagreements in the public square are 'allowed' by you -- less it come across as 'stomping on their rights to worship as they see fit'" -- then isn't that a form of clamped-down censorship on your part?
And shouldn't your expression then go two ways?
Shouldn't you have objected long ago to Lds printing "scriptures" that call 100% of all Christian sect beliefs "an abomination" to the Mormon god?
Shouldn't you have objected long ago to Lds printing "scriptures" that call 100% of all Christian sect professing believers "corrupt?"
If you're so anti-intolerance, where have you been all this time in objecting to these Mormon labels upon the rest of us? [These were written out in the early 1830s; and treated as "Scripture" by all Mormons since the 1870s]
If you have not lived or worked amongst these people you should not be judging them. They bother no one, and they will sure be amongst the first to help out others, unlike most of the main stream religions.
First of all, let's apply your standard to yourself. You don't live among the "religious right" do you? (at least you don't live among the FReepers you are commenting about, right?) Yet in this post, you label us as...
...intolerant...
...hypocrites...
...stompers of religious rights...
...and judges...
You who are telling others not to "judge" people you don't know -- you seem to do a pretty good job of judging people you don't know. So which are we to believe? The standard you say you believe that you want to impose upon others? Or the actions that belie your standard & actually convey "it's OK to judge others" -- as long as you put yourself on a higher pedestal in the process?
As far as "judging" goes, can truth and falsity, right and wrong, be "judged?" If I advised a grandson, "don't cohabit with a girl" -- am I judging? Or speaking the truth with tough love?
I HAVE lived and worked amongst mormons, and left the religion years ago....for which I WAS shunned.
..they will sure be amongst the first to help out others, unlike most of the main stream religions.
That is pure mormon propaganda. Just because Christians don't have a special yellow T shirt to wear to, and advertise their response to disasters so that everyone will recognize their efforts, they are out there every time the mormons are.
No one is "stomping on their rights to worship as they see fit" here. The right to discuss is as open to mormon-defenders as is the right to discuss mormon fallacies. That's what freedom of speech is all about.
There is nothing quite so intolerant as the religious right. Obviously this segment of society lives off in some dream world....
I believe this will be seen as a pretty unpopular viewpoint on FR.
Defending mormonism on the grounds of "tolerance" is a futile occupation.
” . . .they will sure be amongst the first to help out others, unlike most of the main stream religions.”
Thank you. Mormons make service a habit and it is a documented fact.
Why not?
Their founder has slandered ALL of Christendom and HE ain't around to answer for his slurs and lies; so those who think he was RIGHT will have to do the job.
Do you want to help them out?