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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Correctly interpreted, it is end of the age — not world. It means the end of the Catholic Church on earth prophesied by someone recognized as a saint. Suppose then that prediction is considered infallible.


5 posted on 09/14/2009 3:14:56 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God)
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To: DaveMSmith
I agree- the Scripture states repeatedly that the world will never end- this present age will end.

I find it fascinating that St. Malachy, back in the 12th century, was able to accurately predict every single Pope.

6 posted on 09/14/2009 3:17:27 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: DaveMSmith

“It means the end of the Catholic Church on earth prophesied by someone recognized as a saint. Suppose then that prediction is considered infallible”

Sorry, but you suppose wrong. In the Catholic Church only the Pope can proclaim something claimed to be infallible, and only under a certain circumstance known as speaking “ex-cathedra;” meaning “from the chair.” Speaking ex-cathedra is a formal undertaking, and does not apply to everything a Pope may say. The term is easily researched. You might do so rather than suppose about such things.

(I don’t believe in ex-cathedra infallibility, BTW.)


24 posted on 09/14/2009 4:37:06 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Charter Member, 58 Million Club)
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To: DaveMSmith
Suppose then that prediction is considered infallible.

Just because a saint said something, doesn't make it infallible.

And the "St. Malachy" prophecies are probably a forgery written centuries after St. Malachy.

31 posted on 09/14/2009 5:58:22 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: DaveMSmith

The Catholic Church does not attribute infallibility to saints. Only Popes and the bishops in union with him are infallible, and only when teaching the content of the Faith which must be believed by everyone, always, and everywhere.

Most saints have not been theologians and were not involved in a teaching office—i.e., they have not been a pope or a bishop. St. Thomas Aquinas, generally considered the greatest theologian of all time, held a number of views that the Church later rejected. Most famously, he did not affirm the Immaculate Conception, which was widely held but not solemnly defined at the time.

Moreover, the prophecies of St. Malachy cannot be infallible because they have nothing to do with the content of the Faith.


34 posted on 09/14/2009 6:54:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward KennedyÂ’s America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: DaveMSmith

Saints are not infallible.

And the “prophecies” only appeared a couple hundred years after the bishop died.

The weird part is that a lot of them fit the popes AFTER they were discovered. Logically, of course, it means it’s only a self fulfilling prophecy.


39 posted on 09/15/2009 12:23:46 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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