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To: Iscool
The point is that there is no way the Holy Spirit would commission a man to lead God's church who bought the position of leader...

Really? One could also charge that the Son of God would never commission a man like Judas to be an Apostle, who would betray Him for thirty pieces of silver.

The undercurrent of what you're saying - and I don't think you realize what you're implicating - is that the Holy Spirit is not omnipotent and cannot work through even the most flawed and corrupt human beings.

Even Pilate received his power from God, according to Jesus Christ Himself. Care to object?

393 posted on 09/09/2009 6:45:53 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever
One could also charge that the Son of God would never commission a man like Judas to be an Apostle, who would betray Him for thirty pieces of silver.

You figure Jesus would have commissioned Judas to be an apostle after Judas betrayed Jesus???

Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

You thinkin' one of those foundations has the name of Judas on it???

Even Pilate received his power from God, according to Jesus Christ Himself. Care to object?

Pilate didn't have power...He had authority...OF course I object...There's no way Jesus would have given authority to a man to be in charge of His church when that man bought the position...And there's no way Jesus would have given that man apostolic succesion...

The real fact is there is NO man that's in charge of Jesus' church...

401 posted on 09/09/2009 8:32:54 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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