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To: PugetSoundSoldier

***It is not possible to insult or defame anyone who repeatedly posts content which has been disproved with swathes of the Gospel.

You never had done so; you haven’t shown the Biblical stance of purgatory.***

I have, and I have posted it to you. The upshot is that nothing impure shall enter the Kingdom. Revelation 21:
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17 The city had no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gave it light, and its lamp was the Lamb.
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The nations will walk by its light, 18 and to it the kings of the earth will bring their treasure.
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During the day its gates will never be shut, and there will be no night there.
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The treasure and wealth of the nations will be brought there,
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but nothing unclean will enter it

If you are not completely sinless at death, then you are impure. Therefore there is a process of cleansing. This is the process of Purgatory. There is specific reference in II Macabbees which the heretics have seen fit to purge from their Scripture.

***I figured you’d say as much. Catholics are so used to be judge, jury, and executioner of all that it just comes natural to attack another person’s relationship with Christ.***

Catholics cannot Judge anyone. This is anti Catholic rhetoric.

***Go ahead, now tell me I am evil, that I do not know the Savior. I will not counter. I know you have called me an illegitimate son of evil.***

How do you know this? Prove it or apologize right now. You have attributed much to me that is in error.

***Scalp getting a little warm?***

I am waiting for an apology.

***After all of our discussions, do you not comprehend the role of the Pope yet?

A man who leads the church, who can make a pronouncement that must be accepted as the Gospel truth. That about sum it up?***

Absolutely not. What a nasty statement.

***I have. The Catholic Church is the Church of Jesus Christ, which includes the Orthodox and the Latin branches

Not according to the Orthodox.***

Prove it. Or then apologize.

***They have some pretty serious issues with your “claims” in many areas of theology, and do not consider any “reunification” with your offshoot a possibility.***

Prove it.

***So you are admitting that you intentionally are out in the cold?

The Orthodox do not state I will never be saved for being a Protestant.***

Neither do the Catholics. We cannot Judge.

***I am not condemned to Hell, as you Catholics are so willing to do.***

Prove that Catholics condemn anyone to Hell.

***If that is being out in the cold, then I welcome the snow!***

Given the nature of your posts, the persistent errors in spite of correction and the virulent anti Catholic bias shown, I suspect that it may be a touch warm. Not many folks make it to the 9th level.


121 posted on 09/07/2009 7:49:35 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
Touched a nerve, I see! What do you care what an illegitimate Christian who follows a man of evil says? What is your concern? Your posts do not support your claims. You refuse to use the Bible as the final Word of God in determining what is right and wrong. If your Christianity works for you, great. So be it. But brother, you cannot deny your own Church's condemnation of non-Catholics. You even referenced it here, and you have posted elsewhere how the words spoken by the Pope during an ex-communication directly state in your post on this very subject:

Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, of Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles, and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth, we deprive (Name) himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians, we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth, we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment.

Tell me that the highlighted parts are not condemnation. Please. It's also interesting that the burning torment to which the ex-communicated person is judged and condemned (yes, those are the correct words) continues not until Jesus is satisfied, but the church is satisfied.

Jesus claimed the sole right to judgment; apparently, the Catholic Church has taken over that role, and now I - as a follower of the heretic Luther, who has read his writings without the approval of the Pope - am to be punished until the Church - not Jesus - is satisfied.

Those are the words you posted. Do you deny them? Do you deny they state judgment and condemnation? Do you want to stick with your story that the church does not judge or condemn?

130 posted on 09/07/2009 8:25:23 AM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the Defense of the Indefensible)
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