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To: Salvation
I don’t know if he is in hell. God is the judge, not me.

God doesn't put anyone in hell - it's the individuals decisions in life that determine one's eternal destiny. God's will is for all to be saved and He didn't leave us in the dark as to what we need for salvation. As far as his eternal destiny - it's none of my business. I did pray for him when I heard about his cancer that he will do what he knows to do. I have no doubt in my mind that his sister, Eunice, spoke and prayed for and with him.

But for us to pray for him if we so choose, we can always say prayers for the poor souls in Purgatory

If you choose, yes, but to non effect. Either Ted believed or he didn't. Purgatory is not biblical. Either Jesus died for all your sins or He didn't. For anyone to think that they have to 'add' to something to what Jesus already did - remain in purgatory to cleanse themselves - is saying Jesus/The Cross isn't enough for salvation- "I" still have to do something else to gain heaven. What did Jesus say to the thief on the cross when He acknowledged Jesus is the Son of God, our Savior. He said, 'you will be with me today in paradise'. He didn't say you have to go to purgatory and be cleansed first. Either Jesus cleansed us of our sins, past, present and future or He didn't. To deny otherwise, is saying Jesus can't cleanse me entirely, I have to do some of it myself.

It's called Good News for a reason - we are saved by grace through faith and to think we need to add anything is not faith in what Jesus already did.
56 posted on 09/05/2009 2:09:13 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: presently no screen name; Salvation
The issue with the funeral is not whether Kennedy repented or not and whether he was saved or not. That's something only his confessor, if he repented in confession, or God can know. The issue was the big, splashy public funeral for somebody who was a public sinner, publicly opposed the Church on a serious moral issue (several, actually), created public policies that were openly in conflict with the teaching of the Church, and led others into sin through his behavior.

If he had publicly repented and announced at the last minute that he had been wrong in his policies, he was sorry, and he wanted to use his last moments to correct his errors, I could see the big public funeral (although of course Obama would probably not have been invited to stand in the pulpit in that case!).

But as it is, if he repented privately, he should have had a quiet, private funeral celebrated by the local parish priest.

And Obama, leader in virtually every anti-Catholic policy there is, should never have been invited to say anything in a Church building. I think this sums up the impact of the big splasy funeral with Obama preaching:

So in honoring him at Mission Church, Catholic leaders sent out a very disturbing message to the world: a message that could even be construed as surrender.

60 posted on 09/05/2009 3:05:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: presently no screen name
Purgatory is not biblical.

Your own personal interpretation of Scripture is incorrect.

67 posted on 09/05/2009 5:35:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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