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To: greyfoxx39

Thank you once again for fulfilling prophesy: Joseph Smith said his name would be known for good and evil. I know his name for good and you know his name for evil.

I suppose you think it’s cool that Joseph Smith and his brother were murdered in cold blood by a blood-thirsty mob - no due process, no trial.

I suppose you agree with Governor Boggs’ extermination order against Mormons - men, women and children.

I suppose you enjoy the thought of the early pioneer Mormons having their homes, land, and belongings stolen by evil greedy haters.

I suppose you think it’s just hunky dorie that Mormons were driven out of Nauvoo in winter.

I suppose you get a kick out of Mormons being persecuted today for their conservative stands.

I suppose you just love to ponder the spectacle of Joseph Smith being tarred and feathered. (Bet you really like that.)

The lies and distortions coming out against Mormons are nothing new. Nothing new at all. The persecution and hatred continue to this very day . . . just as predicted.

End times. That’s all.


35 posted on 09/03/2009 2:05:41 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

What an absolutely great example of mind-reading and imputing motives. Congratulations.


36 posted on 09/03/2009 2:09:04 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (RIP Ted Kennedy: "He drove the ship of state off a bridge and then left the scene to let us drown.")
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To: Saundra Duffy

I suppose you’re familiar with ad hominem argumentation.


37 posted on 09/03/2009 2:13:14 PM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Joseph Smith didn’t die for his religious beliefs.....
....but rather because of his repeated crimes and lies. He abused the Nauvoo city charter by making the city council his own kangaroo court which repeatedly found him “innocent” for his various misdeeds.
 
At the time of his murder, Smith was still under indictment for the attempted murder of Lilburn Boggs in Missouri. Smith used legal chicanery to avoid prosecution, hiring lawyer Cyrus Walker to get him off on technicalities, in return for promising Walker, a candidate for state office, the Mormon vote. But Smith double-crossed Walker by allowing his followers to vote for Walker’s competitor.
 
Smith had also formed a secret “Council of Fifty” trusted men, whom he planned to become the replacement government of the US when Smith took control of the nation as its theocratic dictator. His attempts to institute a state church enraged his opponents, which included some former Mormons.
 
Smith’s other big offense was his secret polygamy practice. After having denied it for years, Smith’s practice was exposed by some dissident Mormons in a newspaper called the “Nauvoo Expositor.” Its publishers also had charges filed against Smith of adultery and polygamy. Wishing to keep polygamy and his “council of fifty” secret, Smith retaliated by ordering the “Expositor” press destroyed. Its publishers then fled to the county seat at Carthage and swore warrants against him for inciting a riot.
 
Smith’s bogus Nauvoo city court again found him “innocent” on the charge, but the state militia prepared to march to Nauvoo to arrest him. So Smith activated the “Nauvoo Legion” to prevent the militia from entering the city. Fearing arrest anyway, Smith fled across the Mississippi River and prepared to escape to parts west. But his wife Emma and other friends sent him messages calling him a coward and demanding that he return to face charges.
 
So Smith returned and submitted to arrest at Carthage on a charge of treason, which resulted from his illegal activation of the Nauvoo Legion (which was a state-sponsored militia) to prevent his arrest.
 
Once Smith was finally in custody, his opponents saw that as their opportunity to bring him to the justice which he had evaded for years. They didn’t want to give Smith the chance to use legal wrangling to escape yet again. So they formed a mob to storm the jail and killed him as an act of what they viewed as “vigilantism.”
 
Bottom line being that Smith wasn’t killed because of his religious beliefs, but because of his repeated lies and crimes. And Smith had no intention of dying in Carthage Jail; he and friends had two smuggled pistols which they used against the mob. And on the morning of his death, Smith smuggled out a message to Nauvoo Legion commander Jonathan Dunham to come break them out of jail. Dunham declined to obey the order, because he knew that was illegal, since the Legion had been ordered disbanded by Governor Thomas Ford.
 
When the mob stormed the jail, Smith had every reason to believe that the Legion was coming as per his order. That is why he ran to the window and attempted to voice the Masonic distress call “O Lord My God! Is there no help for the widow’s son?” But before he could complete the statement, he was shot and fell from the window. The Legion never came, even though the mob quickly scattered in fear that they were on the way there.
 
 
 
 

40 posted on 09/03/2009 2:19:58 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (RIP Ted Kennedy: "He drove the ship of state off a bridge and then left the scene to let us drown.")
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To: Saundra Duffy
I suppose you think it’s cool that Joseph Smith and his brother were murdered in cold blood by a blood-thirsty mob - no due process, no trial.

I suppose it's ok with you that JS did not follow Scripture that was in the bible, or did not follow 'scripture' that HE 'translated' from the reformed Egyptian?

Do you agree with the destruction of private property like a printing press?

Do you enjoy that fact that Emma was SO jealous of one of JS' sister wives that she beat her with a broomstick 'til she miscarried?

Are you pleased that WW was so afraid of the United AStates Government that HE decided to not follow what GOD had set up as an ETERNAL COVENANT and abandoned the practice of POLYGAMY?


GEE!

This is FUN!

42 posted on 09/03/2009 2:24:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The lies and distortions coming out against Mormons are nothing new.

The TRUTH about MORMONISM is avoided at ALL cost by members of the LDS Organization® based in SLC.

Just WHY do you guys want to known as CHRISTIANS; anyway?

43 posted on 09/03/2009 2:25:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Saundra Duffy
What is new are the lies and distortions that have come, are coming and will continue to come out from the LDS itself...

For example, where is the search for Nephi this year?

69 posted on 09/03/2009 4:19:42 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (There's something socialist in the neighborhood, who ya gonna call? MITTBUSTERS!)
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