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To: NYer
Could one of you that know the bible give me some examples of when Christ baptist with water.

In John 1:32, when Jesus was baptized, He was baptized in the water and the Spirit, which descended upon Him in the form of a dove. The Holy Spirit and water are required for baptism. Also, Jesus’ baptism was not the Christian baptism He later instituted. Jesus’ baptism was instead a royal anointing of the Son of David (Jesus) conferred by a Levite (John the Baptist) to reveal Christ to Israel, as it was foreshadowed in 1 Kings 1:39 when the Son of David (Solomon) was anointed by the Levitical priest Zadok. See John 1:31; cf. Matt. 3:16; Mark 1:9; Luke 3:21.

We also see in John 3:3,5 that Jesus says, “Truly, truly, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.” When Jesus said “water and the Spirit,” He was referring to baptism (which requires the use of water, and the work of the Spirit).

So Christ never baptized with water as prophesied by John the Baptist. If you read verse 4 of John 3 you will see that Christ was talking of natural birth.

John 4:13 Jesus said, "Everyone who drinks from this water will get thirsty again. 14 But whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty again--ever! In fact, the water I will give him will become a well of water springing up within him for eternal life."

I hear about eating the wafer and drinking the grape from the cup but never about drinking the water only sprinkling or dipping in the water, why is that? Does any Church practice that covenant?

27 posted on 09/02/2009 12:17:19 PM PDT by Taxbilly
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To: Taxbilly

Jesus changed water into wine at Cana. Everyone knows that. ;-)


28 posted on 09/02/2009 12:23:55 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Taxbilly

**I hear about eating the wafer and drinking the grape from the cup but never about drinking the water only sprinkling or dipping in the water, why is that? Does any Church practice that covenant?**

First correction — the consecrated bread is called a host.

Have you ever attended a Catholic Mass?

WATER is poured into the wine (historically it was used to cut the strongness of the wine) by the priest. Words said by the priest refer to uniting the blood and the wine with the spiritual/divine and physical/humanity of Christ.


31 posted on 09/02/2009 12:31:01 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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To: Taxbilly
So Christ never baptized with water as prophesied by John the Baptist. If you read verse 4 of John 3 you will see that Christ was talking of natural birth.

From Scripture we know that the baptismal rite instituted by Christ is a sacramental rite; it is an outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace, a grace that sanctifies the soul and makes it pleasing to God (1 Pet. 3:21; 2 Pet. 1:4). We also read in John 3:5 and Mark 16:16 where Christ says "unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God," and "he who believes and is baptized will be saved." Then we read in Acts 19:1-6 and 22:16; Romans 6:3-4, 11; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 and 12:13; and Galatians 3:26-27, where Paul says baptism frees us from sin, makes us children of God, gives us new life, and incorporates us into the Body of Christ. In Titus 3:5, Paul again refers to baptism as the "washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit," for it signifies and actually brings about the birth of water and the Spirit without which no one "can enter the kingdom of God" (CCC 1215). In Colossians 2:11-12, Paul declares that baptism is "the circumcision of Christ": "In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ, having been buried with him in baptism and raised with him through your faith in the power of God, who raised him from the dead."

43 posted on 09/02/2009 3:58:15 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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