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THE CHURCH FATHERS: A DOOR TO ROME (fundamentalist warns saying they sound too Catholic)
Way of Life ^ | August 18, 2009

Posted on 08/30/2009 2:03:16 PM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 08/30/2009 2:03:16 PM PDT by NYer
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To: Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...

For ‘apostate’ discussion with our illustrious fundamentalist brethren.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 2:05:24 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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We know that there were many churches in existence in those early centuries that did not agree with Roman doctrine, because they were persecuted by the Romanists and are mentioned in the writings of the “church fathers.”

But ... wait ... didn't he say we should not trust the Church Fathers?!

3 posted on 08/30/2009 2:08:05 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

This is hysterical!


4 posted on 08/30/2009 2:11:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer

Why don’t we just change the name of this website to

“FundamentalistRepublic.com”?

I mean, whoever said Catholic-bashing is the last remaining prejudice that is still socially acceptable, knows what they’re talkin’ about.


5 posted on 08/30/2009 2:14:08 PM PDT by elcid1970
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Ignatius (c. 50-110)
Ignatius was the bishop of Antioch in the early second century. He was arrested in about A.D. 110 and sent to Rome for trial and martyrdom.
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2. He taught that all churches are a part of one universal church.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 2:17:48 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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We don’t need anything beyond the Bible.

But .... where does it say that in the Bible?

I served as lector today and the reading was 1 Thessalonians 2:1-13. In it, St. Paul notes: And for this reason we too give thanks to God unceasingly, that, in receiving the word of God from hearing us, you received not a human word but, as it truly is, the word of God, which is now at work in you who believe.

No mention of reading the Bible.

7 posted on 08/30/2009 2:19:44 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

Where do I order the Jack Chick comic book “The Death Cookie”?
Oh, and who compiled the Bible?


8 posted on 08/30/2009 2:26:10 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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9 posted on 08/30/2009 2:28:43 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (One man, alone! Betrayed by the country he loves, now its last hope in their final hour of need!)
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To: wagglebee

Evangelicals have their own “fathers.”Luther, Zwingli, Calvin, etc.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 2:29:42 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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Jerome followed the false teaching of asceticism, believing the state of celibacy to be spiritually superior to that of marriage, and demanding that church leaders be unmarried.

Well, there was this guy named Paul that said it was superior but what did he know?

12 posted on 08/30/2009 2:39:17 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Stay tuned for additional "true" information.

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13 posted on 08/30/2009 2:39:35 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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Great title, too “The Church Fathers: A Door to Rome”! And he did the honor of citing the Church Fathers ... lol!


14 posted on 08/30/2009 2:41:55 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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“The term “church fathers” is a misnomer that was derived from the Catholic Church’s false doctrine of hierarchical church polity. These men were not “fathers” of the church in any scriptural sense and did not have any divine authority. They were merely church leaders from various places who have left a record of their faith in writing.”

YOU MEAN LIKE THE GUY WHO”S WRITING THIS ARTICLE?!?!

The mind/head boggles at the self-contradiction.

Christian theology wasnt formed fully ex nihilo. If you ignore post-Scriptural writings, you can toss out all the protestant theologians as well.

JMHO.


15 posted on 08/30/2009 2:49:11 PM PDT by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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I agree. Errors have their source. It would be so nice to have my doctrine delivered to me on a platter by traditions. It takes a lot of work to go back to basics. I have to struggle with meaning a lot, but the end result is closer to what was intended than the reliance on traditions. There are so many errors even in non-religious society that just are accepted as truth because that’s what everyone says and what everyone seems to have always said. I see the same thing going on in religious traditions versus relying on the source.


16 posted on 08/30/2009 2:49:58 PM PDT by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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Actually, his article stands as tremendous witness to the Catholic Church. We'll probably see him soon on The Journey Home.
17 posted on 08/30/2009 2:52:16 PM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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Luther et al, did not know that in Jesus’ times, there was ascetics among the Jews,including of course John. . In fact so were many of the prophets lived ascetic lives. In fact, what was Jesus if not an. ascetic? Jesus and Francis would have gotten along just swell. Luther just studied the Jews he knew, assuming that all Jews, at all times, thought as they did.


18 posted on 08/30/2009 2:54:08 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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19 posted on 08/30/2009 2:55:14 PM PDT by narses (http://www.theobamadisaster.com/)
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In fact, one of the Post-Nicene “fathers” is Leo the Great, the first Roman Catholic Pope!

This whole article is ... well, I'm laughing so hard I think I pulled a muscle.

20 posted on 08/30/2009 3:03:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary,conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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