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A priest preaches about the Kennedy funeral.
The Priestly Pugilist ^ | 8/29/2009 | Priestly Pugilist

Posted on 08/29/2009 7:47:37 PM PDT by Balt

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To: vharlow

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21 posted on 08/29/2009 8:50:51 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Balt
ATTENTION EVERYONE: Father Venditti acknowledges what has been pointed out by a few people here, namely, that he got his Kennedy annullments mixed up. He has, therefore, corrected the relavent paragraph in his homily as follows, and thanks those who saved him from embrarrassing himself on Sunday morning:

"But regardless of how one views the whole question of Catholic politicians and abortion, there is an even more objective reality at play here: Mr. Kennedy lived the last years of his life in what most Catholics would have to preceive to be an objective state of mortal sin. To be fair, he made a petition to have his first marriage to his wife, Joan, annulled. Whether an annulment was granted regarding that marriage no one seems to know. But I do know that Sheila Rauch Kennedy appealed the rather quick annulment that Joseph P. Kennedy, II, received from the Archdiocese of Boston, taking her fight all the way to Rome; and the Roman Rota, the court at the Vatican that decides appeals to annulment cases, ruled that Joseph Kennedy’s marriage to Sheila Rauch was valid and could not be annulled. Sheila Rauch, who remains a faithful Catholic, went on to write a book about her experience fighting the annulment of her marriage, in which she catalogs the culture of corruption that existed in the Archdiocese of Boston, where money could buy anything, including an annulment; and she anticipated, in a veiled way, how that corruption would eventually come back to explode to the detriment of the Church; as it did some years later when it became public that Cardinal Law and his predecessors had, for years, covered up the sexual abuse of children by many of their priests. The Archdiocese of Boston has consistantly refused to say whether Ted Kennedy's first marriage to Joan was properly annulled and declared invalid, leaving the spector of scandal loaming for every faithful Catholic who wonders about it. Unfortunately, for most American Catholics, however, there is no such thing as scandal anymore."

22 posted on 08/29/2009 9:02:26 PM PDT by Balt (http://priestlypugilist.com)
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Beautiful truth

Too bad nothing was said there of Mary Jo. But everything else was right on the money............

23 posted on 08/29/2009 9:07:29 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Balt

Nice job Father.


24 posted on 08/29/2009 9:10:05 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Balt
Sheila Rauch, who remains a faithful Catholic

Sheila Rauch Kennedy is an Episcopalian.

The Archdiocese of Boston has consistantly refused to say whether Ted Kennedy's first marriage to Joan was properly annulled and declared invalid

I was under the impression it was John Kerry's first marriage whose status was mysterious, not Ted Kennedy's.

Other than that, a fine sermon.

25 posted on 08/29/2009 9:18:37 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Nosterrex
The Roman Catholic Church missed a golden opportunity

Correction: The Archdiocese of Boston missed a golden opportunity.

26 posted on 08/29/2009 9:20:26 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Nosterrex

The “Swimmer” is dead. Rest in peace Mary Jo Kopechne!


27 posted on 08/29/2009 9:24:59 PM PDT by Doctor Don
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To: Campion
I was under the impression it was John Kerry's first marriage whose status was mysterious, not Ted Kennedy's.

You may be right. Father Venditti says that, given the fact that there is confussion regarding this issue, he may omit that paragraph entirely in the morning. Whatever the truth, the point is still made in the later paragraph regarding the feast of the Beheading of John the Baptist. It may be prudent to leave any "marriage" allusions to that. In any case, thanks for your kind words.

28 posted on 08/29/2009 9:43:11 PM PDT by Balt (http://priestlypugilist.com)
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To: SweetWilliamsMom
Don't know if Edward Kennedy ever received an annulment of his marriage to Joan but he and Reggie were married in a civil ceremony in his home in McLean, Virginia not in a Church.

I believe that Father Venditti has confused the case of Sheila Rauch and Joseph P. Kennedy II with that of Edward. The confusion is understandable since, as he wrote, if you're a Kennedy in Boston you can get whatever you want.

29 posted on 08/29/2009 9:45:56 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Balt

I believe the priest is mistaken in writing that Joan Bennett Kennedy challenged the annulment of her marriage to EMK and wrote a book about it. I believe that was the wife of Joseph P. Kennedy, Jr., Sheila Rauch Kennedy, who successfully had a Boston Archdiocese annulment overturned by the Vatican.

If the Boston Archdiocese was faithful to the Roman Catholic Church, they should have denied not only the full bore ceremony we saw today which was a total disgrace, but anything beyond a service simply to pray for his soul. The family could have just had something private at ‘the compound’ and jetted his body to DC without making the Catholic Church look like the largest, most hypocritical church on earth. It was an embarassment to the Church and to the practicing faithful. Cardinal McCarrick at the gravesite was even worse.

Similarly the Department of Defense has some ‘splainin to do. There are untold actual military heroes who served real time in real war, and/or who spent their careers in our nation’s defense, whose families, IF they can get buried at Arlington, have to wait for months to have their burial ceremony conducted at Arlington. And, when an Arlington burial IS scheduled, it’s at the pleasure of DoD, not at the pleasure of the grieving family. I have never heard of an evening burial there, tho there may be some, but never for a soldier who served two years, mostly in Paris, while a war was being conducted half a world away.

Neither the Roman Catholic Church nor the US Department of Defense bathed themselves in glory today.


30 posted on 08/29/2009 10:06:14 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: Balt
ATTENTION AGAIN.

Because he got his annulments mixed up, and there's so much confusion about the issue, Father Venditti says he's going to omit the paragraph about annulments altogether when he preaches in the morning. Whatever the truth, the point is still made in the later paragraph regarding the feast of the Beheading of John the Baptist. It may be prudent to leave any "marriage" allusions to that. In any case, he thanks everyone for their help. That's what it's all about! :)

31 posted on 08/29/2009 10:10:39 PM PDT by Balt (http://priestlypugilist.com)
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To: oldvike
I hope the higher-ups in Kennedy’s diocese read this.

Jesus read it. He is the Highest-up in that diocese. Even if they'all have forgotten.
32 posted on 08/29/2009 10:25:25 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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To: Salman

Yep. Reminding me of the story that Queen Mary became queen of England, she had her father’s body removed from his crypt in Westminster Abbey, and dumped into the Thames.


33 posted on 08/29/2009 10:59:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE HOMO!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Good point.


34 posted on 08/30/2009 1:52:18 AM PDT by oldvike
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To: Salman

The official position of the church is Canon Law. It is freely available on-line here:

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM

Fr. Venditti cited the appropriate canon and it is quite clear.

Living in a PUBLIC state of grave sin means Mr. Kennedy should not have been allowed a Catholic funeral. As Fr. Venditti said, it brings scandal to the church and confuses those who are trying to live according to the teachings of the church.


35 posted on 11/28/2011 9:14:59 AM PST by Razor5621
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Another ‘today signup’ chimes in on a years-old thread.....weird.


36 posted on 11/28/2011 9:22:58 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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