I repeatedly told you that when I wrote “This laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church." I was re-wording using my own words what the Moravian Protestant Church itself says on its website - see the lines highlighted.
http://www.moravian.org/history/
The name Moravian identifies the fact that this historic church had its origin in ancient Bohemia and Moravia in what is the present-day Czech Republic. In the mid-ninth century these countries converted to Christianity chiefly through the influence of two Greek Orthodox missionaries, Cyril and Methodius. They translated the Bible into the common language and introduced a national church ritual.
[OK, here it comes]
In the centuries that followed, Bohemia and Moravia gradually fell under the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of Rome, but some of the Czech people protested.
Now the Moravain words with my own so all can see. "This [gradually fell under the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of Rome] laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church [but some of the Czech people protested.]."
Here is what Robert Keating Smith then adds - I did not post all the words because that is what the link was for. Clearly you did not click the link to read it all.
By Robert Keating Smith
Greek, not Roman
German missionaries representing the Church of Rome, had, before that, tried to convert the Czechs in Bohemia, but even at that early date Czechs and Germans found themselves inexorably and permanently opposed. So in Bohemia and Moravia were established Greek rather than Roman rites and doctrines. The gift of the Roman mind is law and the duty of submission to authority, while the Greek mind offers to the world the freedom of the human soul; this is true even in the Christian Church. So the gift of the Church of Rome through German missionaries, the Czechs flung back, and turned with joy to spiritual liberty and living faith which the Eastern Church brought them.
John Hus [Here Robert Keating Smith is stating that the Moravians were PREDISPOSED to resisting Rome because of their eastern Christian origins]
No wonder that when the Reformation began in England and "The Morning Star of the Reformation," John Wycliffe, preached, another answered him from Bohemia--John Hus, preaching in the Bethlehem Chapel in Prague. It was as though once more the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy! John Wycliffe died in peace in his own little parish, but John Hus was reserved for martyrdom. To his own amazement, and to the amazement of both England and Bohemia, John Hus was brought by German intrigue before a council summoned by the Pope at Constance, and that council declared Hus a heretic. Never was there a more infamous council nor a wickeder sentence. John [4/5] Hus was burned at the stake July 6, 1415. The authorities ordered his body burned and his ashes thrown into the river Rhine. Strange to relate, the same council condemned Wycliffe as a heretic (although he had been thirty years dead), and ordered his ashes cast into the river Avon. When the commission appointed to dig up the bones of Wycliffe, came to the little English village of Lutterworth and disturbed the graveyard of Saint Mary's Church, there must have come to the hearts of the plain English folk a bitter desire to be freed from such foreign desecration of their religion.
You wrote:
“You are peettifogging again. pettifogger - a disputant who quibbles; someone who raises annoying petty objections.”
You made two completely outlandish claims and have completely failed to back them up. Why don’t you back them up. They were YOUR words.
“I repeatedly told you that when I wrote “This laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church.” I was re-wording using my own words what the Moravian Protestant Church itself says on its website - see the lines highlighted.”
But that wasn’t the case. As I demonstrated NOTHING in the passage you supposedly reworded actually said what you claimed. NOTHING. You made up a quote to say what you wanted it to - and that was after denying that you ever said it first.
“The name Moravian identifies the fact that this historic church had its origin in ancient Bohemia and Moravia in what is the present-day Czech Republic. In the mid-ninth century these countries converted to Christianity chiefly through the influence of two Greek Orthodox missionaries, Cyril and Methodius. They translated the Bible into the common language and introduced a national church ritual.
[OK, here it comes] In the centuries that followed, Bohemia and Moravia gradually fell under the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of Rome, but some of the Czech people protested.”
Notice, it no where says, nor can it be honestly summarized to have said, “This is laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church.”
There is nothing, and that means NOTHING, in the passage you cited about “groundwork” or “resentment” or “long” simmering or 500 years or Huss being Orthodox. There’s nothing there. NOTHING.
“Now the Moravain words with my own so all can see. “This [gradually fell under the ecclesiastical jurisdiction of Rome] laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church [but some of the Czech people protested.].””
Oh, my gosh. So now you’re making up quotes to try and get a third party to say what you apparently wish they said? Some people protesting is not the same thing as 500 years of long simmering resentment. If anyone protested - and notice no one is listed - that was BACK IN THE 9TH CENTURY. You’re now making up quotes to suit your needs. If that isn’t desperation, what is?
“Here is what Robert Keating Smith then adds - I did not post all the words because that is what the link was for. Clearly you did not click the link to read it all.”
I did. And I looked at the actual book too - which you did not do, right?
“So in Bohemia and Moravia were established Greek rather than Roman rites and doctrines.”
Which says NOTHING about long simmering 500 years of resentment.
“So the gift of the Church of Rome through German missionaries, the Czechs flung back, and turned with joy to spiritual liberty and living faith which the Eastern Church brought them.”
Which as I have already pointed out several times says NOTHING about about long simmering 500 years of resentment.
NOTHING!
“John Hus [Here Robert Keating Smith is stating that the Moravians were PREDISPOSED to resisting Rome because of their eastern Christian origins]”
Nope. That is NOT what he says at all. Look for yourself:
“No wonder that when the Reformation began in England and “The Morning Star of the Reformation,” John Wycliffe, preached, another answered him from Bohemia—John Hus, preaching in the Bethlehem Chapel in Prague. It was as though once more the morning stars sang together and the sons of God shouted for joy! John Wycliffe died in peace in his own little parish, but John Hus was reserved for martyrdom. To his own amazement, and to the amazement of both England and Bohemia, John Hus was brought by German intrigue before a council summoned by the Pope at Constance, and that council declared Hus a heretic. Never was there a more infamous council nor a wickeder sentence. John [4/5] Hus was burned at the stake July 6, 1415. The authorities ordered his body burned and his ashes thrown into the river Rhine. Strange to relate, the same council condemned Wycliffe as a heretic (although he had been thirty years dead), and ordered his ashes cast into the river Avon. When the commission appointed to dig up the bones of Wycliffe, came to the little English village of Lutterworth and disturbed the graveyard of Saint Mary’s Church, there must have come to the hearts of the plain English folk a bitter desire to be freed from such foreign desecration of their religion.”
Note, Smith never once mentioned the “East”, or “Orthodoxy” or “resentment” or “long simmering”. As I have already demonstrated now several times, the passages you cite say NOTHING like you claim they do. The words you use appear no where in the passages you copied. The IDEAS you claimed appear NOWHERE in the passages you copied.
No where in the passages you copied and pasted does it say what you claim. NOWHERE. You have AGAIN failed utterly to post any evidence to bolster you claim:
“This is laid the groundwork for the resentment that long simmered against the Latin church.”