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To: NYer
As a Baptist, I appreciate Mary. I appreciate her husband, Joseph, who kept her a virgin UNTIL after she gave birth to Jesus. I appreciate her son James, Jesus' brother, as well as the other children she bore. I appreciate The Apostle John who took care of her in Ephesus.

I do not appreciate those who call her such idolatrous titles as "The Queen of Heaven," "The Queen of the Angels," "The Perpetual Virgin," etc. Such modes of deification do not advance Christianity. Rather, they infuse Christianity with an obscene paganism that dilutes the true gospel, sometimes beyond recognition.

13 posted on 08/01/2009 2:23:23 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: Guyin4Os

You don’t know that she bore other children. as for the titles, one you don’t mention is “Mother of God,” or in Greek, theotokos. “Bearer of God” to the world. By refusing to accept Mary, Protestant risk lapsing into the Arianism to which so many of them are prone, a doctrine that denies true divinity to Our Lord.


17 posted on 08/01/2009 2:29:57 PM PDT by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Guyin4Os

I call her “The Queen of Heaven,” “The Queen of the Angels,” “The Perpetual Virgin,” etc., but am a Christian and do not deify her nor consider myself a “pagan”, an “idolator”, a promoter of “false gospel”, or guilty of “obscenity”. I hope that ruins your day.


19 posted on 08/01/2009 2:32:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Guyin4Os
The Queen of Heaven, the mother of Jesus, was conceived immaculately also. Mary, was transported to heaven just after her death (in scripture). She is the enemy of Satan.

The Baptist tradition has taken the King James version of the new and old testaments to be the only information extant on the existence of Mary and Jesus.

Knowledge about the life and death of Mary and Jesus has also been handed down in Catholic history/tradition. Jesus is King of Heaven. Mary is the Queen Mother at his right hand.

26 posted on 08/01/2009 2:52:03 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Only ACORN could put a long legged mac daddy, quasi-muslim, communist freak into the white house...)
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To: Guyin4Os

Jeremiah 7:18 uses the term “queen of heaven” but it sure wasn’t about Mary!


60 posted on 08/01/2009 4:55:35 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Guyin4Os

Both Luther and Calvin were firm defenders of the perpetual virginity of the Virgin. It was only later that Protestants began to find this traditional belief offensive. Until then, everyone agreed that Jesus’ “brothers” were either step-brothers or cousins.


67 posted on 08/01/2009 6:00:46 PM PDT by Austin Scott
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To: Guyin4Os

Thank you. That’s excellent and I agree (for what it’s worth, LOL).


79 posted on 08/01/2009 7:51:10 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: Guyin4Os

Um, I’m not sure that if I was her husband my first thought would be, “Boy, I can’t wait until she gives birth to the incarnate, holy, and eternal God so I can have my way with her!” Personally, I would be afraid to even touch her considering what happened to Uzzah when he touched the holy Ark of the Covenant. I can only speak for myself though.


252 posted on 08/03/2009 3:12:56 AM PDT by arielguard (Fasting without prayer is vainglory.)
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