Posted on 08/01/2009 1:51:11 PM PDT by NYer
I’ve come to believe that protestants fail to
give Mary the place of honor God did. I’ve come
to believe Roman Catholics exaggerate that same
place. I’ve come to believe the truth is closer
to the Roman position than the protestant one...
I’ve come to believe that protestants fail to
give Mary the place of honor God did. I’ve come
to believe Roman Catholics exaggerate that same
place. I’ve come to believe the truth is closer
to the Roman position than the protestant one...
No, I did not ignore it. I do deny that Jesus meant to be taken literally.
How can you determine it’s false when the hits I got all said the same thing - I went to the Catholic sites but course they denied it - so it begs the question then: Who do you believe? Them or the RCC?? And no, contrary to what you think or believe, I’ve not been playing ....but it’s understandable why you see it that way .... if something is presented and rather than in a compassionate way to answer it I got “you HAVE been playing ... and noxious at that ....” plus other things .... take care ... seems compassion is one thing missing around here... maybe get a new dogma about it...
I would suggest that checking the Catechism of the Catholic Church, which is full of Scriptural references and lots of useful information, as well as an authoritative book of apologetics, would be more to the point. Not to mention I was not joking with the information I gave you. There was no council in Valencia in 1229 and there could not have been such a council. That's information that's quite useful, because it debunks whatever source you got the slander from.
And when you started asking questions back at the beginning of this thread, I responded with polite, accurate, and pertinent answers to your questions. When you made a statement that was patently false (not a question), I corrected your error. What exactly is the problem?
“”Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.”
Salvation is used several ways in the Bible. It can refer to justification, sanctification, or both.
But Jesus promised to bring us through to the end. We shouldn’t ignore our role, but neither should we deny His.
It's just basic historical research. It's not rocket science.
You can't throw out easily disprovable slander like that and expect people not to conclude that you're being either lazy or deliberately provocative. Given your rude remark to the priest in RCIA, I imagine that you are being provocative, perhaps without realizing it.
Oh no no no. How can you determine it is true?
...when the hits I got all said the same thing...
I do not believe an honest research would fail to turn up this old-school fraud/smear.
I have my own dogma about those who claim to be innocently posting patently-absurd slurs against the Catholic Church: their behavior is malicious.
Generally speaking, of course.
Who's lessons? Disparaging another denomination because they don't believe what you believe? Wouldn't that be a slur against the Baptists?
Dec. 8th is the yearly anniversary of the immaculate conception of mary...not Jesus....
A polite suggestion is not a slur.
A false accusation repeated though demonstrably false is a slur.
Just posted what I found, you considered it a slur not something inaccurate. If inaccurate you state your reasons as to why. I’ve found that when things don’t go the way someone in a debate wants, they attack the person rather than point out where they are wrong. Thanks for proving that right.
Again, no.
It's your claim, you state your reasons why it's true.
You posit something, you prove it.
And I gave you the reasons why. And I have not attacked you, although I have pointed out that your modus operandi will cause some to view you with suspicion.
Who's lessons? Disparaging another denomination because they don't believe what you believe? Wouldn't that be a slur against the Baptists?
The person making that statement is a professor at a Baptist school. She's not disparaging another denomination -- she's pointing out a problem with her own church. Did you read the article?
Wasn’t my intent but it was taken that way - the only thing I wanted was answers ... I go to several websites that all basically said the same thing (Council of Trent 1229) then I go to the Catholic website (www.catholic.net) and read something different. Ok, well you came up with why it was false. I find out that under the Moors in Spain, Christian, Jew and Muslims all lived together just fine and could practice their faiths.
I didn’t say you attacked me, it was “Petronski” who said I made slurs against the Church. I have no motive. But then who’s to believe ....
Good catch!
I missed that part.
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