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To: Steelfish
Exceptional scholars like Gov. Bobby Jindal toileted these beliefs a long time ago and joined the tens of thousands of other brilliant minds from Faraday to Pasteur to Keppler to Chesterton...

"Toileted"? My, aren't we respectful of other multi-thousand year old traditions.

Ancient Hindu science and technology doctrines were vast. They covered the theory, development and application of the scientific method itself, as well as particular investigations of atomic theory, chemical theory, conceptions of molecular motion (Parispanda), the creation of empirical recipes of chemical technology, physics ideas on mechanics (kinetics) and acoustics, biological treatises on plants and plant-life, a scientific classification of animals with associated studies of physiology and biology, a very advanced and developed medical system (ayurveda), and extensive mathematical and astronomical investigations.

Oh yeah - and a Hindu mathemetician named Aryabhatta invented the zero.

And that's the Cliff notes version that doesn't even begin to touch the profound depth and detail of Hindu philosophy, which provided the underlying support of all of these scientific and mathematical investigations.

As well, the fact that all of this was already accomplished before Mary and Joseph were born should give you pause for thought.

97 posted on 07/30/2009 4:48:26 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Talisker

I don’t think scientific doctrines are the exclusive province of Catholics, Jews, Hindus, or Atheists. Nor was this my point.

Those renowned inventors, scholars, discoverers, philosophers, jurists, writers, essayists, poets, painters, sculptors, astronomers, and mathematicians who lived in the A.D. period (Newton, Pasteur, Faraday, Keppler to name a few examples) had a choice of religious beliefs from which to choose from including Hinduism and Buddhism that long predated Christianity.

Indeed, many of them were well versed in Greek and Roman mythology that influenced and was influenced by an assortment of religious beliefs and a whole strain of cults at the time.

Yet despite this menu of choices they chose Catholicism and literary giants like T.S. Eliot, Hillaire Belloc, and G.K. Chesterton whose writings are all standard fare in English Literature were avid and indefatigable Catholics/Christians.

There are several “multi-thousand year old traditions” like the Aztec and Maya cultures that involved human sacrifices as a weekly ritual, this does not mean that one must be respectful of either such beliefs or rituals because of a tradition that was barbaric unless one wants to be considered politically correct. In the modern era “honor killings” in the context of Hindu/Moslem culture is barbaric.

So to turn around your premise that fact that these individuals of science and literature chose to reject pre-existing beliefs “before Mary and Joseph were born should give you pause for thought.”


98 posted on 07/30/2009 6:36:28 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Talisker; Steelfish; MyTwoCopperCoins
My, aren't we respectful of other multi-thousand year old traditions.

i agree. Steelfish, such language is not becoming a Catholic. Our duty is to spread the gospel of Christ -- by using such language, you're hardly going to get anyone to listen to you. Also, that's just bad manners to use words like " Bobby Jindal toileted these beliefs " -- I'd say " Bobby Jindal changed his beliefs".

Christianity is a personal belief system that you come to as an individual and as a church.

Talisker -- you're a bit wrong about Aryabhatta: his discoveries were in 500 AD, not before Christ.
109 posted on 07/31/2009 3:33:23 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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