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To: MarkBsnr
I don’t have a religion. The Trinitarian doctrine took hundreds of years to formulate and understand. It is difficult; so very difficult that a large portion of Protestants fail in that understanding even today.

It's a pity the Apostle Paul wasn't around when your church 'formulated' the doctrine of the Trinity...I'll bet he would have liked to have known what it was all about...

So Jesus tells the Apostles that He and the Father are one...And they say, huh?, We don't get it...Maybe in a few hundred years someone will figure it out...

The only thing crazier than your assertation is that you guys seem to actually believe it...

1,624 posted on 10/23/2009 4:43:36 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

***I don’t have a religion. The Trinitarian doctrine took hundreds of years to formulate and understand. It is difficult; so very difficult that a large portion of Protestants fail in that understanding even today.

It’s a pity the Apostle Paul wasn’t around when your church ‘formulated’ the doctrine of the Trinity...I’ll bet he would have liked to have known what it was all about...***

I think that he would. For instance, Paul never referred to Jesus as divine. Not once in his writings. Also, he did not refer to the Holy Spirit. For example, we have 1 Timothy 5:
21
I charge you before God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels to keep these rules without prejudice, doing nothing out of favoritism.

Did Paul not know about the Holy Spirit? And what about subordinationism? Like the Synoptics, God the Father is often portrayed as superior to Jesus. Galatians 4:
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But when the fullness of time had come, God sent his Son, born of a woman,

***So Jesus tells the Apostles that He and the Father are one...And they say, huh?, We don’t get it...Maybe in a few hundred years someone will figure it out...***

That’s the point. They didn’t get it. Paul wrote first and his Christology is certainly not explicit of even Christ’s divinity, much less addressing the Holy Spirit. The Synoptics, written later, get further into it and John, written last, gets more explicit; yet it took several hundred years and several hundred excommunications to actually write down and define what the Trinity actually is.

And many or possibly most self described Christians still don’t get it.


1,630 posted on 10/23/2009 5:10:37 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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