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To: bdeaner
I tell you things, you take them and you distort them into a straw man

Excuse me, but no "straw man" is involved. You yourself said that "miracles" occur outside the laws and the purview of science. I merely point out the supreme logic of the Creation being the ultimate example of this. It took place outside any scientific laws (which were merely the productsw of the Creation) and is outside the purview of science.

Why you insist that ex-nihilation (as it has been called) is subject to scientific study while the "virgin birth" isn't is illogical.

56 posted on 07/24/2009 3:13:39 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Be`ever haYarden be'Eretz Mo'av; ho'iyl Mosheh be'er 'et-haTorah hazo't le'mor.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I'm willing to give this one more try.

I DO believe the creation of the universe is a miracle! NO question about it! Something was created from nothing. The creation of the universe is not open to scientific investigation, because it is an event prior to the emergence of space and time, and science can only investigate events that occur in space and time. However, once the creation occurred, events unfolded that can be studied empirically, and when investigated, they very much support, circumstantially, the reality of a Creator.

One of the best books on this subject is Stephen Barr's Modern Physics and Ancient Faith. Reviewed here.

Highly recommended.
58 posted on 07/24/2009 3:24:59 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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