To: Salvation
I see prayer to a person, and veneration of a person, and giving God’s attributes (sinlessness, omniscience) to a person as worship.
57 posted on
07/18/2009 2:21:18 PM PDT by
Marie2
(The second mouse gets the cheese.)
To: Marie2
We ask Mary to pray for us. Exactly what you not believing.
FYI, Catholics do venerate her, think she is special, just like we think all the saints are special too. That doesn’t mean they are equal to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
Onve again, you are getting fault information.
60 posted on
07/18/2009 2:27:42 PM PDT by
Salvation
(With God all things are possible.)
To: Marie2
I see prayer to a person, and veneration of a person, and giving Gods attributes (sinlessness, omniscience) to a person as worship.
It is not worship. The proper terms is hyperdulia -- a special veneration, or honor, that places her above all creatures as a creature herself, but that does not make her into an idol or a god. We are also asked to honor our mother and father in the 4th commandment. When we honor our mother and father, we do not worship them. Likewise with Mary, honoring or venerating her, is not worshipping her, any more than honor or venerating a parent at a funeral, for example, is worship of the deceased parent.
Also "praying to" Mary is actually asking for her intercession, in the same way we might ask a friend to pray for us. Mary does not answer our prayers --only God can do that--, but like any other human, she can intercede for us with prayers on our behalf, and since she is the Mother of Our Lord, her intercessions are very powerful and effective, as many can testify, including myself.
The Church does not claim Mary has omniscience, so I'm not sure why you say that, but we do claim she was without sin, but not on her own accord, but rather by the special, singular grace of Our Lord so that Christ, as the Word made flesh, would have a spotless vessel, a new Ark of the Convenent, to carry Him.
90 posted on
07/18/2009 3:30:54 PM PDT by
bdeaner
(The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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