[P-Marlowe]

All these episoco-homos think about is themselves. They have sacrificed the gospel on the altar of sodomy.

[metmom]

ping

[aruanan]

Episcopal presiding bishop terms individualistic salvation 'heresy'

Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori

Looks like Paul was right.

[smokingfrog]

hogwash!

[HarleyD]

People are constantly trying to make God in their image. If these people really believe this, then they simply are not Christians. They're pagans pretending to play church.

At the risk of sounding totally unChristian-especially in this day and age, I have grown tired of hearing rich socialists blaming “individual” or “capitalism” for the fall of the markets and this Depression (or soon to be). The real problem that caused this mess is the notion that everyone SHOULD be equal and we can raise everyone’s standard of living up to be like Bill Gates. The collapse of the housing market (and eventually the stock market) was driven by government interference.

Didn't our Lord Jesus say you will always have the poor? We will never do away with poverty and people who think otherwise are not reading their Bibles.

[Palmetto]

"Ubuntu doesn't have any 'I's in it," she said.

Stunning application of logic. Completely irrefutable.

[firebrand]

It’s really an art form to get things exactly backwards.

[BigFinn]

The spirit of anti-christ speaks. God does not care for the individual, only as a collective group? Jesus said that He came that YOU might have life.

That WIDE road to destruction that Jesus warned about is for all those 'groups' she talks about that deny the individual salvation. She isn't going to stand before God with her collective group glittered with good works... it's going to be just her.

[kalee]

ping

[Uri’el-2012]

Episcopal Bishop calls individual salvation 'heresy,' 'idolatry'

Her argument is with YHvH.

Paul clearly identified what was required.

Yah'shua(Jesus) => YHvH is my salvation.

Romans 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."

Joel 2:32 "And it will come about that whoever calls on the name of the LORD Will be delivered; .....

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[grey_whiskers]

"Ubuntu doesn't have any 'I's in it," she said.

...but both UNIX and LINUX *do*.

...is she a lesbian, by any chance? Episcopal, you know.

Cheers!

[fortunecookie]

Describing a United States church in crisis, Presiding Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori told delegates to the group's triennial meeting July 8 in Anaheim, Calif., that the overarching connection to problems facing Episcopalians has to do with "the great Western heresy -- that we can be saved as individuals, that any of us alone can be in right relationship with God."

Holy cow. So now there's no personal sin? It sounds socialist. It's one thing to be our brother's keeper, it's another to know we need to examine the log in our eye, and not the splinter in our brother's. Well, welcome schism, because I hope she doesn't have a lot of followers who think this is sound theology. I'm Catholic, and this sounds to me like her own version of Liberation Theology, and that can't be a good thing.