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To: paulycy; Antoninus
A world of variations on the model of a Constitutional Republic with a (mostly) free market uniting them is the best solution that humans have so far come up with in this imperfect world.

This can only work if morality is upheld.

This means no legal pornography,abortion etc.. excess wealth that leads to power over the poor for political purpose.

A democracy based upon freedom to whatever you want based upon a legal system that protects sin and calls it freedom has failed in less than 300 years

18 posted on 07/07/2009 3:01:27 PM PDT by stfassisi ((The greatest gift God gives us is that of overcoming self"-St Francis Assisi)))
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To: stfassisi
This can only work if morality is upheld.

True, but you cannot legislate morality nor use a government to force people to be moral. Morality must be voluntary with the exception of the major crimes like murder, theft, etc.

A centralized global bureaucracy "with teeth" cannot maintain peace and prosperity (and charity) nearly as efficiently or effectively as local governments that allow for a wide variety of freedoms, customs and traditions (and personal generosity) within the larger secular law.

19 posted on 07/07/2009 3:12:03 PM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
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To: stfassisi; Kolokotronis
This can only work if morality is upheld.

And that is the huge fly in the ointment. While I have not finished the encyclical yet (plan on it soon), in skimming I see the same problem that exists in Distributism (not sure on the spelling).

For this to work, there needs to be a powerful body governed by moral men. Other wise, it will simply be used as a hammer against adversaries.

Many good points, but while he explicitly says this is not a Utopian thing, I fear that it is in the world we live in today. There were times when such a thing could have worked.

22 posted on 07/07/2009 6:45:59 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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