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The Catholic church sees Rome as supreme. The Orthodox, while similar in much doctrine is NOT the same as the Roman Catholic church. The Orthodox, while sometimes a persecutor itself was also persecuted by Rome and others as they are being today. They have supported Roman primacy off and on (more on than off today). The Western churches were largely persecuted by the Roman Catholic institution - not the Orthodox. ROMAN because the seat of that institution is in Rome.

http://www.staycatholic.com/ecf_primacy_of_rome.htm

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12260a.htm

http://www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org/articles/church_history/michael_theschism.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2056515.ece


444 posted on 06/28/2009 10:40:26 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
The Orthodox, while sometimes a persecutor itself was also persecuted by Rome and others as they are being today

Examples of orthodox persecution please.

454 posted on 06/28/2009 3:07:11 PM PDT by kosta50 (Don't look up, the truth is all around you)
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To: Blogger
The Catholic church sees Rome as supreme. The Orthodox, while similar in much doctrine is NOT the same as the Roman Catholic church. The Orthodox, while sometimes a persecutor itself was also persecuted by Rome and others as they are being today. They have supported Roman primacy off and on (more on than off today). The Western churches were largely persecuted by the Roman Catholic institution - not the Orthodox. ROMAN because the seat of that institution is in Rome.

Firstly -- no, ROME is not supreme among the Catholic Churchs -- it is the first among equals, but the other Patriarchs are of equal dignity, whethere they be Maronite Catholic or Syro-Malabar etc.

Secondly, the Orthodox have always upheld the Patriarch of the West's role as first among equals -- note: not primacy but first among equals

Thirdly, the Western Church IS the Latin Catholic Church (one of the Catholic Churchs). There were/are no other Western Churches.

the Anglicans, Lutherans etc. consider themselves part of the Western Church and we both know the persecution-count on both sides of that is about even

Before the 1500s there were heresies like the Cathars who believed in a dualistic nature of an equal Evil and Good Spirit and in a demiurge. They were not a Church but a Gnostic cult.
481 posted on 06/28/2009 9:49:57 PM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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