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To: Blogger
In regards to Donatists, Montanists, Paulicians, Waldensians, Petrobrussians, Jews, Albigensians, Hussites etc., was the Roman Catholic institution, i.e., the “Catholic church” not responsible for persecuting and killing in heinous ways, for nearly 12 centuries?

The Donatists -- these guys basically said anyone who had recanted his faith under persecution from the Roman emperors (this was from around 300 AD) should not be accepted back into The Church no matter what. Do you agree with that point of view? The Donatists saw the Emperor as the devil. CONSTANTINE setn troops to deal with the DOnatists in Carthage. Ditto for Valentian I. So, The Church wasn't responsible for this, it was a political act against a group who did not want to forgive. Were the Emperors wrong? Perhaps -- the movement could have died out or it could have gone to the extreme saying anyone who sinned even once had to be drummed out of The Church

The Montanist movement dates from 135 to 177 AD. Montanus said that he received a series of direct revelations from the Holy Spirit and sometimes spoke in the first person as God. They believed that the prophecies of Montanus, Priscilla and Maxima superseded and fulfilled the doctrines proclaimed by the Apostles. They believed that Christians who fell from grace could not be redeemed.

Do you agree with these points? If not, what would have happened in the infant Church if this spread? Finally, there was no persecution of the people, rather steady denunciation of the false prophecies

Ditto for the others
383 posted on 06/28/2009 4:41:12 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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To: Cronos

Every group mentioned experienced institutional persecution by the RCC. Whether or not I agree with their theology is immaterial. We do not burn folks at the stake with whom we disagree and the RCC had no such authority under Scripture to do such a thing.


390 posted on 06/28/2009 5:39:03 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Cronos
Finally, there was no persecution of the people, rather steady denunciation of the false prophecies This statement is simply untrue.
393 posted on 06/28/2009 5:52:39 AM PDT by Blogger
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To: Blogger
let's take other -- Paulicians. They were Gnostics dualists who believe that God and Satan were equal in power -- The Evil Spirit is the author and lord of the present world while the Good Spirit is the lord of the future world.

They rejected the TAnakh (the Old Testament) as they believed that Yahweh was the Evil Spirit and Christ came down fromheaven to emancipate humans from the body and from the world , which are evil.

Do you agree with this theology? Is this part of your belief system as a Baptist?

Come on, this was pure heresy that corrupts.
396 posted on 06/28/2009 6:00:38 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delendae sunt + Jindal 2K12)
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