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5 Myths Concerning the Rapture: A Critique of Premillenial Dispensationalism
Skadi Forum ^ | 11/3/08 | Carl E. Olson

Posted on 06/25/2009 1:58:34 PM PDT by bdeaner

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1 posted on 06/25/2009 1:58:34 PM PDT by bdeaner
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The biggest myth is that there will be a rapture.

I'm not sure what that has to do with Republican government.

2 posted on 06/25/2009 2:01:11 PM PDT by mc6809e
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I HATE the left behind series. I could go on for volumes on this, but to cut to the chase, I am mid tribulation pre wrath. If I were to nail down one scripture that sets a “time” for me it would be the beginning of Revelation 7. Pre-tribulationists put it at the beginning of Revelation 4.

This is a really good site on the whole subject:

http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/Definitions/Def_Pretrib.htm


3 posted on 06/25/2009 2:02:55 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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Reading current events into prophecy has yielded the result that the apocalypse has happened already multiple times. Ha.


4 posted on 06/25/2009 2:04:11 PM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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pre, mid or post.........you just better be ready.


5 posted on 06/25/2009 2:06:12 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic megonogistic megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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Meanwhile:
Locusts Swarm Ethiopia
http://www.livescience.com/animals/etc/090623-locusts-swarm-ethiopia.html

~grinning~ ;o)
6 posted on 06/25/2009 2:06:56 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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Myth #6 It will be a secret rapture.
7 posted on 06/25/2009 2:07:18 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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This posting is probably best placed on the religious forum. The biggest problem that I have with the rapture is that churches that teach this belief seem more interested in discerning signs of the End Times than preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified. They would be better served by visiting a palm reader about when the End Times are going to happen than listening to either LaHaye or Ryrie.
8 posted on 06/25/2009 2:08:38 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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>>The biggest myth is that there will be a rapture.<< The word has so many different meanings to so many different people that I don’t know how to take that statement.

I do believe that some will be changed in the “twinkling of an eye” and that Revelation 7:9 is real. And when you think about it being preceeded by 8 verses that very specifically call out 144,000 but it describes “...a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language...”. That is a LOT of people. There needs to be an explanation for who the book is talking about, especially when the answer to the elder’s question about their identity is: “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”

One must ask, “how did they come out?” Rapture? Nuclear war? A space ship?


9 posted on 06/25/2009 2:08:44 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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Reading current events into prophecy has yielded the result that the apocalypse has happened already multiple times.

I'm sure in the past, say, one thousand five hundred years, you will find one thousand five hundred prophecies all certain as the sun rises, that year would be the one.

10 posted on 06/25/2009 2:09:38 PM PDT by mnehring
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11 posted on 06/25/2009 2:11:16 PM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Stuff 0be back into the Madhi well in Qom from whence he oozed.)
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The biggest myth is that there will be a rapture.

The bible says there will be a catching away. The only point that can be debated is when that will occur.

Of course, those who don't believe in the bible wouldn't believe in the rapture.

12 posted on 06/25/2009 2:11:25 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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This posting is probably best placed on the religious forum.

This is in the religion forum with the following topics selected:
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology;

13 posted on 06/25/2009 2:12:02 PM PDT by mnehring
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The girl in the foreground is pretty cute. Interesting pose the artist chose. Nice suggestive wafting up of the really short skirt.

No. I am not trying to be irreverent. Rather, I am critiquing the drawing and exactly what the artist was trying to portray. It is overtly sexual.That is just wierd.


14 posted on 06/25/2009 2:12:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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This posting is probably best placed on the religious forum.

This post IS in the Religion Forum. See top right corner of page. ;)
15 posted on 06/25/2009 2:15:34 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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Is that a real book? Or is it a satire? That is seriously twisted stuff right there.


16 posted on 06/25/2009 2:17:51 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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>>pre, mid or post.........you just better be ready.<<

Of course. For most people it will be at death. Everyone dies alone.

But if you are not ready? Then what?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2240648/posts


17 posted on 06/25/2009 2:17:54 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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Yes! The girl in the pic is definitely, DEFINITELY, sexualized. This is an actual picture from a Christian, premillenialist comic strip used as propaganda. Pretty twisted, isn’t it? I mean seriously, of all the possible choices, the chick getting raptured in the front is wearing a TIGHT sweater?!?!? My goodness.


18 posted on 06/25/2009 2:20:06 PM PDT by bdeaner (The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ? (1 Cor. 10:16))
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hell, Eternal separation from God.
19 posted on 06/25/2009 2:20:56 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic megonogistic megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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I think the “secret rapture” is potentially the greatest deception within Christianity today. SO many Christians are going to begin to doubt their faith when they begin to suffer under the Antichrist, saying “but, but, we’re not supposed to be here”.

Years ago, I found that the pretribulation secret rapture just didn’t make Biblical sense. Why does Christ tell his followers that “YOU will be persecuted” by the Antichrist? How can this rapture be secret, when “every eye shall see”? Where exactly is this secret rapture described? I sat down and studied and just looked at what Scripture had to say. It really isn’t complicated, nor does it need much “interpretation” (there’s too much “bible interpretation” going on...we need to stop “interpreting” the Bible, and just take what it says and do it). For a long time, I thought I was the only one who had “figured it out”, but recently, I found that I would be considered as holding a “Pre wrath” position.... and I’m not alone! I also found out that the popular doctrine was quite recent in invention, and simply was not believed by anyone prior to about the 1830’s.


20 posted on 06/25/2009 2:21:32 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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