Posted on 06/25/2009 1:58:34 PM PDT by bdeaner
I'm not sure what that has to do with Republican government.
I HATE the left behind series. I could go on for volumes on this, but to cut to the chase, I am mid tribulation pre wrath. If I were to nail down one scripture that sets a “time” for me it would be the beginning of Revelation 7. Pre-tribulationists put it at the beginning of Revelation 4.
This is a really good site on the whole subject:
http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/Definitions/Def_Pretrib.htm
Reading current events into prophecy has yielded the result that the apocalypse has happened already multiple times. Ha.
pre, mid or post.........you just better be ready.
>>The biggest myth is that there will be a rapture.<< The word has so many different meanings to so many different people that I don’t know how to take that statement.
I do believe that some will be changed in the “twinkling of an eye” and that Revelation 7:9 is real. And when you think about it being preceeded by 8 verses that very specifically call out 144,000 but it describes “...a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language...”. That is a LOT of people. There needs to be an explanation for who the book is talking about, especially when the answer to the elder’s question about their identity is: “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
One must ask, “how did they come out?” Rapture? Nuclear war? A space ship?
I'm sure in the past, say, one thousand five hundred years, you will find one thousand five hundred prophecies all certain as the sun rises, that year would be the one.
The bible says there will be a catching away. The only point that can be debated is when that will occur.
Of course, those who don't believe in the bible wouldn't believe in the rapture.
This is in the religion forum with the following topics selected:
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Theology;
The girl in the foreground is pretty cute. Interesting pose the artist chose. Nice suggestive wafting up of the really short skirt.
No. I am not trying to be irreverent. Rather, I am critiquing the drawing and exactly what the artist was trying to portray. It is overtly sexual.That is just wierd.
Is that a real book? Or is it a satire? That is seriously twisted stuff right there.
>>pre, mid or post.........you just better be ready.<<
Of course. For most people it will be at death. Everyone dies alone.
But if you are not ready? Then what?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2240648/posts
Yes! The girl in the pic is definitely, DEFINITELY, sexualized. This is an actual picture from a Christian, premillenialist comic strip used as propaganda. Pretty twisted, isn’t it? I mean seriously, of all the possible choices, the chick getting raptured in the front is wearing a TIGHT sweater?!?!? My goodness.
I think the “secret rapture” is potentially the greatest deception within Christianity today. SO many Christians are going to begin to doubt their faith when they begin to suffer under the Antichrist, saying “but, but, we’re not supposed to be here”.
Years ago, I found that the pretribulation secret rapture just didn’t make Biblical sense. Why does Christ tell his followers that “YOU will be persecuted” by the Antichrist? How can this rapture be secret, when “every eye shall see”? Where exactly is this secret rapture described? I sat down and studied and just looked at what Scripture had to say. It really isn’t complicated, nor does it need much “interpretation” (there’s too much “bible interpretation” going on...we need to stop “interpreting” the Bible, and just take what it says and do it). For a long time, I thought I was the only one who had “figured it out”, but recently, I found that I would be considered as holding a “Pre wrath” position.... and I’m not alone! I also found out that the popular doctrine was quite recent in invention, and simply was not believed by anyone prior to about the 1830’s.
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