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To: bdeaner

I HATE the left behind series. I could go on for volumes on this, but to cut to the chase, I am mid tribulation pre wrath. If I were to nail down one scripture that sets a “time” for me it would be the beginning of Revelation 7. Pre-tribulationists put it at the beginning of Revelation 4.

This is a really good site on the whole subject:

http://watchmanbiblestudy.com/BibleStudies/Definitions/Def_Pretrib.htm


3 posted on 06/25/2009 2:02:55 PM PDT by RobRoy (This too will pass. But it will hurt like a you know what.)
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To: RobRoy

pre, mid or post.........you just better be ready.


5 posted on 06/25/2009 2:06:12 PM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic megonogistic megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: RobRoy

I think the “secret rapture” is potentially the greatest deception within Christianity today. SO many Christians are going to begin to doubt their faith when they begin to suffer under the Antichrist, saying “but, but, we’re not supposed to be here”.

Years ago, I found that the pretribulation secret rapture just didn’t make Biblical sense. Why does Christ tell his followers that “YOU will be persecuted” by the Antichrist? How can this rapture be secret, when “every eye shall see”? Where exactly is this secret rapture described? I sat down and studied and just looked at what Scripture had to say. It really isn’t complicated, nor does it need much “interpretation” (there’s too much “bible interpretation” going on...we need to stop “interpreting” the Bible, and just take what it says and do it). For a long time, I thought I was the only one who had “figured it out”, but recently, I found that I would be considered as holding a “Pre wrath” position.... and I’m not alone! I also found out that the popular doctrine was quite recent in invention, and simply was not believed by anyone prior to about the 1830’s.


20 posted on 06/25/2009 2:21:32 PM PDT by SandWMan (Even if you can't legislate morality, you can legislate morally.)
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Personally, I think this is all God’s business. We mortals are speculating to no good end. Salvation doesn’t occur by our brains, but by God’s grace.

We all end up in the presence of God. For those who hate him, it will be Hell. For those who love him, it will be Heavenly.


54 posted on 06/25/2009 4:30:22 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, telling it straight since AD 33)
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