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To: Elsie; DouglasKC
I've think I've got the root of your problem: Acts 15

I'm amazed that folks use [Acts 15] as an example of the dissolution of the Sabbath and other things by the Jerusalem Council.

Consider: What do the first two verses address as the Problem? And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. 2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. What question (singular)? CIRCUMCISION!

Now.....you gotta ask yourself this question. What in the world did circumcision have to do with the manner of Moses? Wasn't the circumcision covenant with Abraham? Why were these men (brethren) from the Jerusalem church concerned about circumcision and the "Custom" of Moses?

The Greek tells us that the word "ETHEI" is the one used for "Custom"....or "Manner" in some translations. The root word "ETHOS" is used also to denote various commands from the Law of Moses in scripture. Examples are: [Luke 2:42][Acts 6:14] & [21:21]. Here is the circumcision command found in the Law of Moses:

[Leviticus 12:1] 1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. 3 And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. Well.....this certainly wasn't a big problem as all of the Apostles had already been circumcised as Jewish children. But.....the Jews from Jerusalem were evidently not using this scripture as their argument. Instead they were using this one:

[Exodus 12:43-49] 43 And the LORD said unto Moses and Aaron, This is the ordinance of the passover: There shall no stranger eat thereof: 44 But every man's servant that is bought for money, when thou hast circumcised him, then shall he eat thereof. 45 A foreigner and an hired servant shall not eat thereof. 46 In one house shall it be eaten; thou shalt not carry forth ought of the flesh abroad out of the house; neither shall ye break a bone thereof. 47 All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. 49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

These "Brethren" from Jerusalem were upset because Paul and Barnabas were allowing "Uncircumcised Gentiles" to observe and participate in the Passover with them. And they thought that in addition to baptism these Gentile males must also be circumcised to partake of The Lord's sacrifice at Passover. This would then allow them (the Gentiles) to become part of the covenant people of Israel and no longer be considered strangers (Gentile).

Now....let's go back and look again at verse 2: 2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question. The word "question" here in the Greek is "ZETAMATOS". It is a Greek noun, sometimes translated as "Issue" and it is being used in the singular! Circumcision was the only issue that brought Paul and Barnabas to Jerusalem.....and it was the only issue that was discussed at the council. The entire Law of Moses was not the issue in question.....at Antioch.....or Jerusalem!

When Paul spoke at the council he was rebutted by some Pharisees who thought that circumcision was still necessary (verses 4-5). The Pharisees were not advocating that the Gentiles had to keep the entire Law of Moses. Unfortunately some translations give this impression. If you translate verse 5 literally this is what comes out: "It is necessary to circumcise them to instruct and to keep the Law of Moses". The Pharisees therefore believed that by submitting to circumcision a dual purpose would be satisfied. One, education of the Law of Moses.....and to keep the Law of Moses with regards to Passover [Exodus 12:43-49].

This is one more place in scripture which shows the Early Church still observing God's Festivals (Passover) and Sabbaths.

In verses 6-7 they considered the question....and then Peter got up and recalled the Holy Spirit descending upon Cornelius.....an uncircumcised Gentile. So, after hearing both sides of a heated discussion Peter asks: "Why do you test God by putting a yoke upon the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?"

What was this yoke? It was adult male circumcision! Peter was telling the council that the Jews themselves were unable to endure this rite as adult males. They were not physically able themselves to submit to circumcision. Let's look at [Genesis 34:24-26] 24 And unto Hamor and unto Shechem his son hearkened all that went out of the gate of his city; and every male was circumcised, all that went out of the gate of his city. 25 And it came to pass on the third day, when they were sore, that two of the sons of Jacob, Simeon and Levi, Dinah's brethren, took each man his sword, and came upon the city boldly, and slew all the males. 26 And they slew Hamor and Shechem his son with the edge of the sword, and took Dinah out of Shechem's house, and went out. Simeon and Levi slew all the males of the city. They couldn't defend themselves as they were in so much pain. It was traumatic and debilitating for adult males to undergo circumcision! This was the yoke that Peter spoke of. Peter finishes by stipulating it is through grace that we are saved.....just as they are (verse 11).

Then Paul and Barnabas again spoke recounting all the miracles and wonders that God has worked through them for the Gentiles. They pointed out that these things were all done without submitting to circumcision.

Now....this is what James says: [Acts 15:13-18] 13 And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: 14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. 15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, 16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. He quotes the prophet Amos (verses 16-17) but here is the entire prophecy in context: [Amos 9:8-15] 8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD. 9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth. 10 All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. 11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old: 12 That they may possess the remnant of Edom, and of all the heathen, which are called by my name, saith the LORD that doeth this. 13 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that the plowman shall overtake the reaper, and the treader of grapes him that soweth seed; and the mountains shall drop sweet wine, and all the hills shall melt. 14 And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. 15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

This is a Messianic prophecy and James has clearly indicated that he realizes that these "Gentiles" coming to faith in Jesus are among the ones that have been scattered among the Gentiles mentioned in verse 9. And he says in verse 19 of Acts that he believes that we should not trouble those among the Gentiles who are turning to God but will write to them about abstaining from things polluted by idols, from sexual immortality and from things strangled and from blood.

Why did James announce these four things? Eating food sacrificed to idols; Sexual immorality; Eating the meat of strangled animals; Eating blood. These are all things found in Mosaic Law and are referred to as "Halakah"....which literally means, "the path that one walks". Each of these requirements are to be found in the Law regarding strangers among us....those who desired to live among the Israelites. They can all be found in the 17th and 18th chapters of Leviticus. James is defining the path that these Gentiles should walk in order to be counted among the Jews.

The entire Law of Moses was never the subject of the Jerusalem council (A.D. 49)....only the subject of circumcision of adult male converts. James finishes up by stating that Moses is read every Sabbath anyway.....so he answers the Pharisee's earlier question about keeping the Law of Moses, indicating they (the Gentiles) would learn about Moses by attending Sabbath services, and if they truly became converted they would have knowledge of the Law by their simple attendance.

These newly converted Gentiles would then realize that they should indeed circumcise their 8 day old infant boys, but they themselves would not have to undergo this procedure....this yoke.

287 posted on 06/24/2009 10:46:01 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
The THIS QUESTION was answered, and then the whole LAW thing was shown for what it was:

"a yoke that even our FOREfathers were not able to bear".


'Interpret' this:

All the congregation of Israel shall keep it.


'Interpret' this:

Rom 3:19
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

291 posted on 06/25/2009 5:31:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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