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To: vladimir998

You wrote:
“You attend a sect’s assembly. Remember your sect was started less than 500 years ago. It is a sect, not a church.”

Five hundred years ago the reformation exposed the heresies of Rome and it’s system.

“What is preached there is obviously ignorance. Mary’s sinlessness is not a heresy nor could you ever have the authority to conclude it is such as long as you are just a sectarian anyway.”

You’re wrong. You and your church have no authority to claim and teach that Mary was sinless. That is attempting to add to scripture - find out what happens to people who do that in the Book of Revelation.

There is nothing to suggest anywhere in the Bible that Mary was sinless.

Have you ever heard of any of the popes refer to Mary as the Queen of heaven ?


167 posted on 06/24/2009 2:47:20 PM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Veeram

You wrote:

“Five hundred years ago the reformation exposed the heresies of Rome and it’s system.”

No. Less than 500 years ago the Protestant Revolutionaries gave into their lusts and attacked the only faith any orthodox Christian had ever known.

“You’re wrong. You and your church have no authority to claim and teach that Mary was sinless.”

Sure the Church has such authority. Christ gave the Church authority. Christ sent the Holy Spirit to guide the Church. He never sent the Holy Spirit to guide any sect.

“That is attempting to add to scripture - find out what happens to people who do that in the Book of Revelation.”

It adds nothing to scripture. Sola scriptura, however, cleary does add to scriptura for, as everyone knows, no where is sola scriptura taught in scripture. Also, to be precise, the admonition in Revelation was about adding to Revelation specifically.

“There is nothing to suggest anywhere in the Bible that Mary was sinless.’

There doesn’t have to be. No where in scripture is it taught that all things must be in scripture. Protestants themselves follow this principle by not only following doctrines not in scripture (such as sola scriptura) but adding them to the body of Christian doctrine almost 1500 years after the fact.

“Have you ever heard of any of the popes refer to Mary as the Queen of heaven ?”

Yes. Have you ever heard of Christ being called the King? What do you call the mother of a king? A queen, obviously.

http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/1998/9812fea2.asp

Ceiling. Watch.

http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/mother.htm

Ceiling. Watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WwjFXw2yE0&feature=related

Ceiling. Watch.


168 posted on 06/24/2009 3:08:12 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Veeram
Five hundred years ago the reformation exposed the heresies of Rome and it’s system.

But they did nothing to assail the Truth of the Catholic Church, nor could they.

177 posted on 06/24/2009 6:57:14 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Veeram
There is nothing to suggest anywhere in the Bible that Mary was sinless.

There is nothing anywhere in the Bible to suggest that we must rely solely on the Bible.

Sola Scriptura is a non-Scriptural, false tradition of men.

179 posted on 06/24/2009 7:01:34 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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