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To: Veeram

You wrote:

“That may be true elswhere and in general in other areas, but as I have been trying to point out, the school I went to DID NOT encourage us to read the Bible !!”

And as I have been pointing out the Church you said you once belonged to does. This is not about a school alone.

“It may have been there for my encouragement, but I was not encouraged to read it, by anyone. Example: Kids don’t do homework unless you require them to. I was not required, or encouraged to read it. I COULD have read it, but to a kid, the mass just seemed like a carbon copy of last weeks mass. Except for a few different readings and the sermon, the mass, they’re all pretty much the same.”

But this isn’t about the Mass either. The readings are part of the Mass, but are not the Mass itself. No curiosity about the story of God is about the person’s laziness, not the lack of encouragement from anyone else.

“Most of the mass IS the scripted prayers, every week.”

Most of the Mass is scripture in the forms of prayers.
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“Yes, they did at mass, and at school here and there, but that was it.”

And you thought that the Mass’ importance was not encouragement to read the scriptures even though they were read at Mass?

“Yes!”

Apparemtly you slept through it all. You’re helping me to understand how people could have voted for Obama when they should have known better.

“Maybe cause I didn’t like going to church when I was younger and disliked the nuns who hit us.”

And if your parents ever hit you that stopped you from being interested in your family right?

“Well thanks, but I’m confident I’m saved. The Bible tells us how we can be confident of our salvation.”

Confident, but not presumptive.


158 posted on 06/22/2009 7:06:34 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: vladimir998

You wrote:

“And as I have been pointing out the Church you said you once belonged to does. This is not about a school alone.”

It’s possible that this particular church NOW encourages reading of the Bible, but they didn’t when I was there, and believe me, I’m an expert witness to what I observed in the church, and school I went to !

“But this isn’t about the Mass either. The readings are part of the Mass, but are not the Mass itself. No curiosity about the story of God is about the person’s laziness, not the lack of encouragement from anyone else.”

I’m not buying that, kids aren’t naturally curious enough and motivated enough to do school work, otherwise we wouldn’t require them to do so.

“Most of the Mass is scripture in the forms of prayers.”

That may be, but after saying them thousands of times, it’s robotic. The prayers may be biblical, but saying them over and over again are not.

If you went to visit a friend and said the same scripted “hello it’s nice to see you - yada yada yada” and said that everying single time you visited this friend. After while it’s just reciting words. Do you think that same treatment would be pleasing to God ?

“Apparemtly you slept through it all. You’re helping me to understand how people could have voted for Obama when they should have known better.”

It’s not my fault the mass is a boring collection of repeated phrases and rituals.

“And if your parents ever hit you that stopped you from being interested in your family right?”

No, I was just bored at mass, and again was not required, encouraged, or motivated to to read the Bible or the missal at that time in my life. The school and church NEVER encouraged it. They MAY now, but didn’t back then. It sounds like you’re expecting a grade school kid to have the attitude of an adult.

“Confident, but not presumptive.”

Confident in Jesus alone!


159 posted on 06/23/2009 6:29:06 AM PDT by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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