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“Yes, for allowing it and sometimes even promoting it, and doing nothing about it. Enablers of harm to the young deserve a millstone just as much as those doing the actual harm.”

Nope. The one at fault would be the local bishop, not the Church. When a local bishop fails, it is his fault. When he does what the Church teaches he is in perfect communion with the Church - that’s the Church. I don’t confuse the two when they should not be confused. Also, didn’t you graduate from Villanova? So you paid them money for four years to mess up the minds of young people including your own? So, you’re an enabler too then by your own logic. Not only are you an enabler, but you PAID THEM TO DO IT.

“Bishops and the Pope can declare that a universities does not represent the Catholic Church and request that the university stop its false advertising.”

Yes, a difficult, painful and lobg process must come before that usually and most bishops are not anymore interested in that process than you were in taking a stand rather than being an enabler as you were.

“I have never seen them do that.”

I have.

“They can remove the priests and nuns under their authority to leave the university.”

There are few or no priests or nuns under their authority at that university. The diocese does not run universities and few diocesan priests work at Catholic universities.

“Bishops also have control over the curriculum and basic philosophy of their own elementary and high schools.”

No. In theory yes, but as I have seen in recent years even the most active and ardently Catholic bishops have little control over their schools in day to day matters. Take Archbishop Burke for instance. It is well known that he had constant battles in his original diocese - LaCrosse, Wisconsin - with school administrators, teachers, parents, etc. Today, Catholic schools are often largely independent of their bishops. They can issue decree like statements, but they do not have the staff to watch the schools.

“My daughter was a math teacher at Catholic elementary school last year. Every one (ALL of them) of the teachers, the principal, and the priest who was the director, voted for Obama and took every opportunity possible to tell ( and show) the students how utterly **thrilled** they were that he was elected.”

And so what? That’s happened all over the country and in some of the best diocese and under even some of the best bishops. All you’re doing is proving my point for me. These people are essentially no different than you. They have left the Church. They just pretend to still be Catholic.

“So...Go ahead,...I have had plenty of experience with Catholics and their logic games. Go explain these games to God.”

I don’t play any games. When you meet God, you be sure and tell Him that you left the Church you were convinced was true because you didn’t want to take up the fight. Make sure you tell Him that, okay?

“Personally....I am not about to be an enabler.”

But you were for four years at least and paid those people you believe were wrong. Brilliant.

“As for your reasoning regarding Christ establishing a church: Talk about a cult! Your argument is the same used by **cultist** to control their members! We are the true cult and if you leave you are leaving truth ( with awful consequences, of course!)”

Christ established one Church. He never established your sect. I fyou think that simple truth is proof of a cult, then you better reject the New Testament because it’s pretty plain from what is said inside it that Christ established ONE Church and that He could not have established your sect.

Does lashing out probably make you feel better though? Yeah, it solves soooooo many problems doesn’t it.

Remember you paid them money for four years while you disagreed with them. Enabler.