To: Chris DeWeese; fr_freak
How can you get any more exact on describing sin then to say ANYTHING that falls short of perfection is sin? We cannot be perfect, the only perfect man was Christ who was God. Everyone else falls drastically short, thus we sin. You my FRiend seem desirous of picking a fight where their is none to be found.
Your argument to me is actually insulting in that you come off as if I said everyone can perfect with out Christ, but I didn't. The thing you seem to miss is I agree that even after one accepts the Lord they are still very imperfect, fact is they will come to realize how imperfect they are, because they will see that they fall drastically short of a perfect God's desire for the kind of life they should live. Partly because of our selfish desires to be the the ruler of our own lives, and partly because, well quite frankly we are all born in sin. Even the best of our good works are no better than cow dung.
I do not disagree with the Bible's explanation that lawlessness is sin and we all practice lawlessness, but how does that make my statement wrong? My definition says the same thing but in the way I decided to explain it.
Another thing, you never answer the arguments about your flawed thinking, you just find reasons to pick about things that you desire to argue. Under your definition of Christianity, you must be the only one who is right and going to heaven because as far as you are concerned everyone else is wrong. Do your self a favor answer the points brought up about your obviously flawed reasoning on the statements you made, and back them up with facts.
So I now come full circle and ask you why is it you have a problem with my taking a position that many false teachers are leading those caught up in the gay lifestyle into the false assumption that the Bible condones their behavior? I know that fr_freak pointed out that it is the Homosexual community that is trying to legalize immoral behavior by equating it to heterosexuality that God condones. If they were not so in our face, than I and other pastors would not feel the need to set the record straight on what God says about their behavior.
You picked a fight, like I said , where there is no fight for you. If you desire a good debate, then write in an article what it is you believe and you will have the debate you want. Believe me, if you really do believe the things you state, then you will have oodles of FReepers who will be glad to take on your beliefs and debate. I actually think it would be a very lively debate, because you are so far off from the conservative Christian path, that you seem to be on an island by your self. So do yourself a favor and post an article on your understanding of the Scriptures and then we can really have the debate you desire.
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05/18/2009 9:01:43 AM PDT by
OneVike
(Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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