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Can Christians serve in the New World Order army?
RenewAmerica.Us ^ | 5/7/09 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 05/08/2009 5:27:10 PM PDT by ReformationFan

Many patriotic Americans, including many retired and former military personnel, are increasingly chagrined at the direction the U.S. armed forces are taking. For one thing, there were numerous instances in the Clinton and both Bush administrations when American GIs were required to serve under foreign or United Nations commanders. Does anyone remember the Michael New case? How can any American GI, who has taken an oath to the U.S. Constitution, willingly surrender himself to a foreign commander, flag, or uniform? That is a potential conflict that has caused many to question modern military service.

Another potential moral conflict in modern military service (at least for Christians) is the inter-sex training and quartering that is now required in every branch of military service (except the Marine Corps). To put healthy young adults of the opposite sex in such close and, many times, compromising environments is more than problematic for those wishing to stay morally pure. (Christian parents should know that many state colleges and universities now require students to live in coed dorms, including using coed bathrooms and showers.) Add to this President Barack Obama's determination to expunge the Department of Defense's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, thereby allowing open homosexuals to serve in the military. All of the above has many Christians questioning the wisdom of giving their sons and daughters to today's U.S. military.

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: baldwin; bhonwo; christians; christianvote; chuckbaldwin; military; newworldorder

1 posted on 05/08/2009 5:27:10 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Fox’s Book of Martyrs


2 posted on 05/08/2009 5:36:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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Sure, its a great way to get high quality training. Training that stays with you for the rest of your life.


3 posted on 05/08/2009 5:45:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: ReformationFan

NO.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 6:32:47 PM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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I would think that it would be impossible for a Christian to serve in the military, and I say this after having served thirty years in the military active and reserve. I come from a long line of men that have served this nation even before it was a nation. I am proud of my service and those with whom I have served. But this is a new day and a new kind of military. Feminism, homosexuality, and political correctness are the order of the day. I am glad I served in the military when I did.
5 posted on 05/08/2009 7:05:12 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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Thanks for posting this. I tried to post it from NewsWithViews last night, but all of a sudden a page appeared saying that articles from NewsWithViews aren’t allowed on FR!!!

What’s up with that???? Could they be too conservative? Too Christian?


6 posted on 05/08/2009 7:44:16 PM PDT by ChrisInAR (The Tenth Amendment is still the Supreme Law of the Land, folks -- start enforcing it for a CHANGE!)
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I would think that it would be impossible for a Christian to serve in the military, and I say this after having served thirty years in the military active and reserve.

The US Military is burning Bibles.

7 posted on 05/08/2009 8:01:12 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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The depth of Baldwin’s ignorance is exceeded only by it’s breadth. He makes several factual mistakes in this editorial that make him look foolish.

1. US Forces have frequently served under foreign command since 1917. They have done this in cooperation with our allies in both war and piece. When doing so US forces are still ultimately under US command and answerable to the Constitution and the President. That is how we fought World War II and how NATO has worked since 1949.

2. Don’t Ask Don’t Tell is a law enacted by The Congress. Only the Congress can repeal it. As The President, Obama is free to advocate it’s repeal, if he so wishes. Coed training is a policy enacated at the direction of the President.

Nothing in the Constitution prohibits the President or the Congress from enacting stupid policies.

3. US troops, since the founding, have very rarely been used to police the nation’s borders. Indeed the border with Canada is demilitarized by treaty, if I recall correctly.

The problems at the Mexican border are of a civil and criminal nature. The Army is ill trained and equipped to deal with illegal aliens or drug smugglers. The last time the Army was used for border enforcement, in 1916, the result was a well organized effort that still failed to find the man they were looking for.

4. The US Army is for fighting the enemies of the United States. If you want to convert Afghanistan to Christianity, then you need to send missionaries, after the War is over


8 posted on 05/08/2009 9:40:49 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Jimmy Carter".)
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Nosterrex. It is really sad to hear you say that although I hear much the same from many of my friends currently serving. My good friends wife was visiting him on base with last month while they prepared to deploy to Iraq again. He is a reservist and had deployed in ‘03 ‘04 before. She was very disturbed and the how much cruder, coarser, and less professional the Army had becom ein just that short period. I have heard from other friends about quality of recruits entering the force today and it is not pretty picture. There is still a core of patriotic individuals who want serve but the filler is of an increasingly low quality, mentally, physically, and yes spiritually.


9 posted on 05/09/2009 7:30:56 AM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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