Fr. Berg leaves Legion of Christ to join Archdiocese of New York

CNA ^ | May 7, 2009

[NYer]

Ping!

[tioga]

Good for him.

[Onelifetogive]

I leave with a heart grateful to Christ who I know accepted and blessed the oblation of my years of religious consecration in the Legion.

I'm not sure Christ knows what an "oblation" is. I have read his words and I don't recall him ever mentioning an "oblation" or anything ever getting "oblated" or "oblatified"...

[choirboy]

The word from the Latin “oblatio”. Check a Bible in Latin and you’ll find the word there.

[Lorica]

I'm not sure Christ knows what an "oblation" is.

I'm pretty sure He does.

http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?new=1&word=oblation&section=0&version=rhe&language=en

[ArrogantBustard]

I have read his words and I don't recall him ever mentioning an "oblation"

I'm curious as to which translation of His Words you've read ... some English language Bibles use the word quite liberally, some do not use it at all.

[livius]

I wonder if other Legionaries will be leaving. They have some great people.

[tioga]

I would have left long ago. Very sad state of affairs.

[tioga]

Same can be said for the Bible.......didn’t even exist when Jesus walked the earth.

[livius]

I have a friend whose son went to their seminary - but very briefly. The family is very conservative, but the seminary was completely weird and their son lasted about 2 years, only with heavy encouragement from his family. The thing that nobody liked was that odd vow (which I think BXVI made them drop) that was essentially a religious confidentiality agreement.

I suspect that there are a lot of very good people in the Legionaries who are wondering what to do now. Somebody may emerge and restore the order to the vision of its founder - before the Devil seized him in his grasp and bore him away - or maybe not.

Fortunately, I think there are more options than in the past: they can find a good bishop and become diocesan priests, or they can seek entry into one of the many orthodox religious orders that have blossomed since that time.

[Onelifetogive]

I'm pretty sure He does.

I stand thoroughly corrected!

[Onelifetogive]

I'm curious as to which translation of His Words you've read ... some English language Bibles use the word quite liberally, some do not use it at all.

KJV and NIV, usually. (And mine was a seriously uninformed comment!)

[tioga]

There are a good many valid places to go.....I like this one.....Intercessors of the Lamb.

[ArrogantBustard]

Thanks ... your KJV uses the word liberally, I suspect that NIV doesn’t.

[livius]

(And mine was a seriously uninformed comment!)

LOL! I do that all the time...but don't usually have the good grace to admit it!

[livius]

They seem very interesting. I am printing out their information for an older friend of mine who is the member of a dying religious order of women.

[Lorica]

I stand thoroughly corrected!

What a wonderfully refreshing comment. :)

[Salvation]

I believe Christ definitely knew what an oblation was!

OBLATIONS

The offering of the bread and wine for consecration at Mass, expressed by the offertory procession of the faithful and the offertory prayers of the priest. Also applied to any other gifts presented by the people at Mass, either symbolically on special occasions or actually when the gifts are offered for the use of the clergy, the Church, or the poor. (Etym. Latin oblatio, offering.)

All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.

[tang-soo]

This is from Daniel Chapter 9 (See my tagline as to why I recognized this so quickly). KJV

Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.

I've understood this to mean the evening sacrifice which Daniel was still honoring with his prayer, though in the captivity of Babylon.