Posted on 05/07/2009 8:02:59 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Formerly known as Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, this denomination regards itself a reorganization of the church organized in 1830 by Joseph Smith, Jr., and regards Joseph Smith III, the eldest surviving son of Smith Jr., to have been his legitimate successor. The church was "legally organized on April 6, 1830, in Fayette, New York"[16]. The formal reorganization occurred on April 6, 1860 in Amboy, Illinois as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, adding the word Reorganized to the church name in 1872.
Community of Christ today considers the period from 1830 to 1844 to be a part of its early history and from 1844, the year of the death of the founder, to 1860, to be a period of disorganization. Since 1844 the doctrines and practices of Community of Christ have evolved separately from the other denominations of the Latter Day Saint movement.[17] Within the past several decades, the church has undergone radical changes, discarding many of its distinctive doctrines. Some changes included the ordination of women to priesthood, open communion, and changing the church's commonly-used name from Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints to the current name in April 2001.[18]
The church owns two temples, the Kirtland Temple dedicated in 1836 in Kirtland, Ohio, (operated in part as a historic site as part of its educational ministry), and the relatively new Independence Temple, which serves as the church's headquarters in Independence. The church sponsors Graceland University with a campus in Lamoni, Iowa, and another in Independence, where the School of Nursing and Community of Christ Seminary is based. These structures are open to the public and used for education and gatherings. The church also owns and operates some Latter Day Saint historic sites in Far West, Missouri; Lamoni, Iowa; and Plano and Nauvoo, Illinois. The Auditorium in Independence, Missouri, houses the Children's Peace Pavilion and is the site of the major legislative assembly of Community of Christ, known as World Conference.
(Emma Hale Smith Bidamon (10 July 1804 – 30 April 1879) was married to Joseph Smith, Jr. until his death in 1844, and was an early leader of the Latter Day Saint movement, both during his life and afterward as a member of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS, now the Community of Christ). )
Ping to first in a series on the division between the Salt Lake City LDS and the Reorganized LDS.
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Honest question. Why would anyone join a church that was formed 1800 years removed from the time of Christ? Wouldn’t that be akin to saying that God left us orphans until 1830 after promising to never leaving us orphans? Didn’t scripture tell us that He was building his Church while he was still on earth, and the gates of hell would not prevail against it? How is it that this is compatible?
Because the mormon god told them to, her RLDS gave full membership and the priesthood to black men in 1865...
Why did it take untril 1978 for the break off branch, the LDS, to catch up and do the same ????
Logic logic logic.........
Honest answer.
From the time of Christ's death, onward until the plates were discovered, a time of Apostacy was rampant on earth. The Church became ran by men, and not of the will of God.
"Let no one in any way deceive you, for it [Jesus' return] will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction," (2 Thess. 2:3, NASB).
The LDS faith believes that Joseph Smith was called as a prophet, and was given the Golden plates to translate. These plates contained the written records of Prophets who lived here, and tells of wars, miracles and teachings that supplement (not REPLACE) the bible.
The Bible, as generally accepted now, is a compilation of books that were first assembled by the First Council of Nicea. This council of people determined which scriptures would be compiled into the bible, and which scriptures would be discarded.
It is very intersting that the Dead Sea Scrolls, just recently discovered (historically speaking, recent is ~50 yrs) tend to give credence to the Book of Mormon over the Bible in points of contention. For this, I leave you to investigate for yourself. Research for yourself, and let your own soul determine the falicy or the correctness of the Book of Mormon.
His gospel was first established on the earth beginning with Adam and has been taught in every dispensation through such prophets as Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and others. Each of these prophets foretold the coming of Jesus Christ to atone for the sins of the world. Those prophecies have been fulfilled. The Savior did establish His Church. He called His Apostles and established His priesthood. Most importantly, He laid down His life and took it up that all will rise again, thus carrying out the atoning sacrifice. But that was not the end.
After the Savior’s Resurrection, He commissioned His Apostles to lead the Church and administer gospel ordinances. Faithful to this charge, they were persecuted, and some were eventually martyred. As a result, the Lord’s priesthood authority was no longer on earth, and the world fell into spiritual darkness. In the centuries that followed, God’s children had the Light of Christ, could pray, and could feel the influence of the Holy Ghost. But the fulness of the gospel had been lost. There was no one left on earth with the power and authority to lead the Church or perform sacred ordinances such as baptism, conferral of the gift of the Holy Ghost, and the saving ordinances of the temple. Almost everyone was denied access to the scriptures, and most people were illiterate.
Preparations for the (LDS) Restoration and the Second Coming
The Restoration of Major Doctrines through Joseph Smith-Part One
The Restoration of Major Doctrines through Joseph Smith: Part Two
What? Are you able to point to the research? (not lds writings)
GRoooaaaaan!
Obviously this is the rendition of facts as told to you by the LDS Church. Really Hodar, perhaps you should read historical facts from another source.
Bible Timeline or.....
How We Got our Bible... or perhaps you could just google bible, canon, timeline and see what truths you can come up with.
So Christ lied when he told his disciples that he would send the Holy Spirit, who would lead them to "all truth"?
And he lied again when he said "behold, I am with you always, even unto the consummation of the age"?
Why would you follow a weak, impotent "Savior" like that, who founded a church which fell apart within decades after his ascension?
BTW, the word is "apostasy," not "apostacy". And the passage you quote says nothing about any 1800 year apostasy.
Just a curiosity, who is going to compare the Book of Mormon to the Dead Sea Scrolls, if not the LDS faith? The Dead Sea Scrolls were suppressed by various church affiliated groups for over 20 years, primarily because there were some fundamental disagreements with what the scrolls said.
For some reason, the LDS faith has found that points of scriptures that were condemned by 'modern churches' were in fact, supported by the Dead Sea Scrolls.
The reason I ask the question that way, is because I have seen dozens of shows on archeology that have said this find supports (usually phrased, “this find supports the Biblical account”) the Bible / Torah. If in fact they found support for the bm it wouldn’t be noted?
The findings supported ancient Hebrew writings, that were not present in the bible. But then the question becomes, how did a 2nd grade educated farmer in the 18th century, with no access to ancient Hebrew doctrines, know about this? Pretty lucky, huh?
"In its fulness, the gospel includes all the doctrines, principles, laws, ordinances, and covenants necessary for us to be exalted in the celestial kingdom. The Savior has promised that if we endure to the end, faithfully living the gospel, He will hold us guiltless before the Father at the Final Judgment (see 3 Nephi 27:16).
3 Nephi 27:16 "And it shall come to pass, that whoso repenteth and is baptized in my name shall be filled; and if he endureth to the end, behold, him will I hold guiltless before my Father at that day when I shall stand to judge the world." Link
(Who needs the Bible .... when this Book of Mormon “feels” so right?)
Be specific. Everything except cave 4 was published very rapidly. Cave 4 was kept secret by one group of Catholic scholars. It is now public. There are no "fundamental disagreements" with any of it.
OTOH, the DSS includes a virtually perfect copy of Isaiah, which is nearly identical to the modern Hebrew text.
Isaiah (around chapter 44) says 4 or 5 times in different ways that there is only one God. Not as many gods as there grains of sand on the seashore, not a "god of this world," but one god. Period.
That's in "fundamental disagreement" with LDS doctrine.
It also shows the falsehood of the LDS claim that "translation errors" were introduced into the Bible by "priestcraft".
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