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To: GonzoII
Paul points out that Christ is being ignored in their contentions in favor of different leaders including himself, He should be the center of their thoughts,

I would say not since Christ is included in this topic of exclusion...

Interesting that Paul says pretty much not to focus on what Jesus personally teaches exclusively...

ALL of the apostles have taught what Jesus told them to teach...To rely only on what Jesus says in Matthew is no better than following just the teaching of Apollos...

these verses have nothing to do with the papacy.

Sure they do...As I understand it, your pope teaches that what Jesus spoke to Peter supercedes anything any of the apostles wrote...

Paul points out this is wrong since they all taught what Jesus spoke, to them...

The topic is unity...And it is NOT unity into a religion that follows after one person's teaching whether it be Peter, Jesus or Paul or Apollos or anyone else...That verse goes to the heart of your religion...

73 posted on 05/03/2009 3:26:02 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
"I would say not since Christ is included in this topic of exclusion..."

He is and Paul saved the correct response until last.."and I of Christ "Look at the following verse, look how Christ is now brought forward as the main issue:

1Co 1:13 "Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified(No, Christ was) for you? or were ye baptized (baptism in Christ) in the name of Paul? (of course not but in the name of the Father and the Son etc..)

74 posted on 05/03/2009 4:01:39 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: Iscool; GonzoII
As I understand it, your pope teaches that what Jesus spoke to Peter supercedes anything any of the apostles wrote

You must be joking, right? is that what Protestants are taught? That the epistle of Peter somehow "supercedes" the gospel of John? at no point does Peter have his own teaching, he is solely the fisherman that labors on behalf of and teaching the teachings of the Christ, nothing more -- the other apostles wrote things that clashed with Peter? Really? Which gospels?

your statement is completely wrong and is an example of the silly propaganda spread against The Church. I don't blame you as this is what you were presumably taught or heard, but this is as silly as "The Da Vinci Code" or "Angels and Demons" -- pure fiction.
93 posted on 05/04/2009 7:34:37 AM PDT by Cronos (Ceterum censeo, Mecca et Medina delenda est)
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